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PLA official confirmed Heavy Strategic Bomber H-20 to beat B-2B

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    And of course, to send missiles be it cruise anti ship or anti base or WU 14, China must control space.
    So your choice to think this US of A General fucking paranoid kiasu or that he saw what is coming.
    Is he going to risk his stars by talking cock and talking shit as seen so many times by our maggots in white and paper generals ?

    'China is working on building a navy in space': Air Force general says US has fallen 40 YEARS behind communist nation in the space race and needs a ‘Kitty Hawk’ moment to catch up
    • US Air Force general Steve Kwast said China is ahead in space advancement
    • He said in a statement: 'China is on a 10-year journey to operationalize space. We're on a 50-year journey'
    • Two years ago, Chinese officials announced plans for their new 'Space Force'
    • It's purpose is to strengthen China's military presence in low-Earth orbit
    • The country has also constructed cutting-edge anti-satellite weapons
    • Kwast said the US must follow the path and 'bring together the right talent to accelerate the journey'
    • He added that the main priority should be on public-private partnerships
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    US Air Force general Steve Kwast (shown in his official portrait) said China is ahead in space advancement

    United States Air Force general Steve Kwast believes the country may be losing it's longtime lead in space advancement.

    Kwast, the commander and president of Air University at the Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, said the states are falling behind China almost two years after its officials announced their cutting-edge 'Space Force' plan.

    While speaking with CNBC this week, Kwast said: 'In my best military judgement, China on a 10-year journey to operationalize space. We're on a 50-year journey.'

    Chinese military affairs specialist, Rick Fisher, confirmed the force would be created within the People's Liberation Army.

    It's purpose is to strengthen China's military presence in low-Earth orbit, Fisher revealed to The Washington Times back December 2015.

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    China's Long March rocket carrying the manned spacecraft Shenzhou-11 is seen at the launch center in Jiuquan, China, October 10, 2016

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    China on June 15, 2017 successfully launched its first X-ray space telescope, named Insight, to study black holes, pulsars and gamma-ray bursts, state media reported

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    Fish eye view shows China's Long March rocket carrying the manned spacecraft Shenzhou-11 at the launch centre in Jiuquan, China, October 10, 2016

    China has also been working to construct more anti-satellite weapons, while a model showing the latest hypersonic glide vehicle was revealed earlier this week.

    Estimates say the missile delivery craft could move at up to 'ten times the speed of sound' (7,680 mph/12,360 kph).

    Kwast told CNBC the US must follow the path and 'bring together the right talent to accelerate the journey.'

    He said he hopes for a 'Kitty Hawk' moment - and accomplish a breakthrough development similar to the Wright Brothers in 1903.

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    Maj. Gen. Steven L. Kwast, stands in his office on Maxwell Air Force Base March 13. Kwast said 'China is on a 10-year journey to operationalize space' and the United States is 'on a 50-year journey'

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    Pictured: At Bagram Airfield, Brian Williams speaks with Steven Kwast, Brigadier general with U.S. Air Force, about the tempo of the battle in Afghanistan. Kwast believes a 'Kitty Hawk' moment will begin a new era in space

    'We could be on a five year journey, because it's all about how aggressively we are going about this journey,' the commander added.

    He further discussed the seemingly 'impossible' regulations entrepreneurs face amid the process.

    'You have to detail everything in your suitcase – each item's material, manufacturer, weight and more – the government takes a year to go through it and then tells you what you can and can't take.

    'If you have to update your request, then you have to start all over,' Kwast said.

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    China unveils its J-20 stealth fighter during an air show in Zhuhai, Guangdong Province, China, November 1, 2016

    'You need technological innovations to reassure Congress that this is safe and effective, as the FAA cannot do this unilaterally.

    'Low-cost access to space is the first domino to making this possible.'

    In Kwast's list of recommendations earlier this year to the Air Force's U.S. Space Command titled 'Fast Space', he notes the nation's main focus should be on public-private partnerships.


    'I think the balance between public and private is reasonable right now but we're still not doing enough, and we're not aggressive enough,' he said.
     
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    Beidou3 accuracy is not yet that good unless you were talking about big big cunt so Tua Kang one, super Lar Ko Pi one!
     
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    Beidou 3 accuracy is measured by the millimeter.
    As so said in earlier report. If you do not like that report, please take it up
    with the writer directly. I am the messenger cum Ctrl-C-V artist and I did not write that report.

    China's military is updating its satellite navigation system, launching tech that'll offer super accurate guidance for munitions and drones.

    On Sept. 29, China launched two Beidou 3 satellites from a Long March 3C rocket from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan province. Another two Beidou 3 satellites will launch before the end of 2017, part of a network of 20 Beidou 3 and 10 older Beidou 2 satellites set to go up by 2020.

    Civilian GPS receivers generally achieve higher accuracy by combining signals of several satellites, and indeed the completed Beidou Navigation Satellite System is expected to provide global coverage, with millimeter-level accuracy.


    Also from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeiDou_Navigation_Satellite_System

    BeiDou has been described as a potential navigation satellite system to overtake GPS in global usage, and is expected to be more accurate than the GPS once it is fully completed. The current third generation of BeiDou claims to reach millimeter-level accuracy (with post-processing), which is ten times more accurate than the finest level of GPS.

    So the average cunt can be told if it is the left or right labia minora, no need a big big cunt.

    But not with your Alibaba bought GPS as that is public civilian GPS where the signals will be downgraded likely to accuracy by the meter, and you then will need a very big big cunt!

    The Beidou 2/Compass navigation satellites will have 35 satellites once completed, with 5 in geosynchronous orbit, and 30 in middle earth orbit.

    China Academy of Space Technology, via Escobar on Sinodefence Forum

    The system will also likely have new, jam-proof chips. Allystar Technology has unveiled a computer chip for use in Beidou receivers, providing instant accuracy without the aid of augmentation by ground control stations. This computer chip's ability to enhance satellite navigation signals could enable military Beidou users to withstand enemy attempts to jam satellite navigation.

    The Beidou 3 satellite navigation service is expected to be available only to Chinese military and national security users for the foreseeable future. The updates could be particularly useful for Chinese unmanned systems (like small quadcopter drones) as well as long-range cruise missiles.


    The very accurate measurement by millimeter will not be open to you unless you are a Chinese cruise missile or military plane , or drone , or a WU 14.
    The Amercian Navstar GPS operate very much the same way that China will follow. Usage by civilian will be curtailed to much lower accuracy than for USA military. And I guess in time of war, everyone be cut off but the USA military . Which is why it is imperative for China to have their Beidou system

    Those interested can read some of that here.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
     
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    What is this? 1 inch AMR?

    PLA said they will use this to take out Indian mountain hole fire bases from where the Indian weapons are unable to reach. This must be damn long range.

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    The Chinese Type 85 heavy machine gun, firing .50 calibre or 12.7mm
    Not good to be hit by this.

    Similar to M2 Browning


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    Thanks for the info. :)

    Wah Lan! PLA want to Piak Ah Neh using that.
     
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    My pleasure.

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    This photo was at the border of Eritrea . China much involved in arming the Middle East if you remember the Abrams taken out by their rocket.
    So Chinese armaments seen lots of uses.

    Kelingkia ask for it.
    Kelingkia will get what they fucking deserved.
     
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    The next Chinese carrier will be even more advanced than USA carriers.
    Chink develope a system using direct current even more advanced than the EMALS system USA trying now to make it work.
    No more talk of Chink copying USA!
    Chink will be using electromagnetic jet launching system while USA still using steam catapult.

    Angmoh dua dua kee lampek orledi
    Chink dua dua kee and tumescent

    So anymore talk cock about
    Then take out China little by little. First thing first, the SCS... island chain around it. Enforce a no fly zone for ship and aeroplane.
    Plot the downfall of Yuan.

    What's the point of having a longer range that the US bombers when it is clear that the chinks' bombers will be shot down before they fly past Taiwan or Japan?


    :D:D:D

    Kong langjeow wei

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    China's making major progress with its aircraft carrier tech


    Say hello to China's first catapult-equipped carrier.

    By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer August 16, 2017








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    TYPE 002 CARRIER

    This fan-made computer-generated image of the Type 002 by artist Nishikasaizoukan shows the craft's key features like catapults, J-15B fighters, and fixed-wing airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft.

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    Though China launched its much-ballyhooed Type 001A aircraft carrier just a few months ago, the People's Liberation Army Navy is hardly resting on its laurels, instead making steady progress on technology for its second home-built carrier, the Type 002.

    The Type 002 carrier, development for which is slated to wrap in 2020 or 2021, will be a 70,000-ton aircraft carrier with catapults designed to launch heavier aircraft.




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    CGT-60F

    The CGT-60F, seen here as a subscale model, is a class F turbine that can be used on warships like the Type 002 aircraft carrier.

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    And giant catapults aren't the only new tech in development. Pictured above, the CGT-60F is a heavy duty, F-class gas turbine (which typically have a power output of 170-230 megawatts) designed by Tsinghua University's Gas Turbine Research Center with the Dongfang Electric Group and Shanghai Electric Group. It's completely domestic design that exceeded expectations for cooling and temperature distribution—vital factors for large turbines. As such, the state-run China Daily suggested that the CGT-60F would be a suitable candidate to power a large warship, such as an aircraft carrier.


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    TYPE 002 WUHAN

    The carrier mockup at Wuhan, used for testing shipboard electronic systems like radars and comms, has been modified with multiple AESA radars.

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    Additionally, the aircraft carrier mockup at Wuhan (which also hosted the electromagnetic test rig for the Type 055 destroyer) is modifying its island to include new electronic systems.





    Previously modeled after the Liaoning's older island, the changes include the installation of an additional bridge deck, and new, flat paneled Type 346x series AESA radars—just like the Type 001A carrier, but with smaller AESA radars above the Type 346s.

    The Type 002's island would likely have a similar multi-paneled radar system found on the Type 055 DDG's integrated mast. Those smaller AESA radars could be used for targeting and fire control, allowing the Type 002 to datalink with missiles launched from aircraft and other ships, extending their range.

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    J-15B

    The J-15B, seen on a catapult prior to launch at the Huangdicun naval air base in Liaoning. The Huangdicun base is testing both steam and EMALS catapults for installation on the Type 002 aircraft carrier.

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    China has also continued catapult testing at the Huangdicun. Obsessives may recall that earlier this summer, China launched the catapult-capable J-15T from the land-based electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS), as well as debuted new steam catapults.

    By putting both the J-15T and catapult through extensive testing, the pilots and aircrew of the Type 002 carrier will be able to move quickly toward complex operations when launched. What's more, a J-15 (serial number "111") was spotted in early July 2017 with a inflight refueling pod, slung under the fuselage centerline, between the engine nacelles. This kind of refueling would expand the range and flight times of current fighters.


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    GYRFALCON

    The Shenyang "Gyrfalcon" J-31 stealth fighter, China's second stealth fighter program, is reported to have a possible carrier capable configuration, with folding wings and reinforced landing gear.

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    Additionally, the second prototype J-31 stealth fighter has made additional flights this summer, the most recent on July 25. This burst of activity gives credence to reports that Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, the J-31's builders, is planning to create a third J-31 prototype with the capability to operate on catapult-equipped aircraft carriers.





    The J-31, while smaller than the J-20 stealth fighter, has improved stealth and avionics capability on its second prototype. Plus, production versions are planned to be equipped with faster WS-17 engines, which could allow for supersonic flight without fuel-thirsty afterburners. Those putative J-31 fighters could prove to be stiff competitors in air combat with F-35C fighters of the U.S. Navy.

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    TYPE 003

    This display at the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution looks even further into the future. Here you can spot speculative features like catapults, J-20 fighters, and stealthy unmanned combat aerial vehicles (UCAVs). The nuclear-powered Type 003 supercarrier likely won't enter service until after 2030.

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    Looking beyond the Type 002, the Type 003 aircraft carrier could be a true supercarrier, with nuclear power and a 90,000-ton displacement. If official displays in China's military museum are any indication, the Type 003 would come with futuristic aircraft like stealthy drone bombers and sixth-generation fighters. It could also have enough electricity to power Chinese lasers and railguns currently under development.

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    Technology breakthrough will let China’s aircraft carrier use electromagnetic jet launching system


    Technology breakthrough will let China’s aircraft carrier use electromagnetic jet launching system
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    A technological breakthrough in naval propulsion will enable China’s second home-grown aircraft carrier to use the world’s most advanced jet launch system without having to resort to nuclear power, overcoming a huge hurdle in the vessel’s development.

    The development of the integrated propulsion system (IPS) would allow the vessel to be more efficient, allowing more power for an electromagnetic catapult, rather than a less technologically advanced steam-driven catapult launch system, the sources said.

    China’s first two carriers, the Liaoning and its sister ship, the Type 001A, are conventionally powered vessels equipped with Soviet-designed ski-jump launch systems.

    But an electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) on the Type 002, China’s second home-grown aircraft carrier, would mean less wear and tear on the planes and allow more aircraft to be launched in a shorter time than the ski and steam-catapult systems.

    China’s top naval engineer Rear Admiral Ma Weiming developed a medium-voltage, direct-current transmission network to replace an earlier system based on alternating current.

    The development of the Type 002, which had long been delayed, would get under way “soon”.

    Wang Ping, an expert in military technology at the Institute of Electrical Engineering under the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing, said the innovative design meant that high-energy consuming launch systems and weapons could now be used on a vessel driven by conventional power.

    It was a complete overhaul of the energy supply and distribution system. The same technology could be used to launch not just aircraft, but also missiles and satellites, and maybe even power high-speed trains.

    The US electromagnetic launcher has been a source of technical problems and delays for the Gerald ford supercarrier.

    A new electromagnetic launch system for aircraft carriers that has faltered when attempting to launch heavier planes is now sound thanks to a software fix, Navy officials announced this week. However, it won’t reach the Navy’s new carrier for more than a year (2019).

    The Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System, or EMALS, is one of several brand-new technologies installed aboard the first-of-class supercarrier Gerald R. Ford, which was commissioned July 22.

    The system has drawn the ire of President Donald Trump, who said in a memorable May 11 interview with Time Magazine that he wanted the Navy to return to “goddamned steam” for its carrier catapults, as the new “digital” technology was unreliable and inexpensive.

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    China’s New Aircraft Carrier to Use Advanced Jet Launch System
    A purported technological breakthrough has increased the chances that China’s new carrier will feature electromagnetic catapults.

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    The People’s Liberation Army Navy’s (PLAN) next-generation aircraft carrier, designated Type 002, will likely be fitted with an advanced electromagnetic catapult system for launching aircraft, according to Chinese military experts.

    Chinese engineers have allegedly successfully developed a new integrated propulsion system (IPS)–“a medium-voltage, direct-current transmission network”—which would allow more power for a catapult assisted take-off but arrested recovery (CATOBAR) aircraft launch system similar to the U.S. Navy’s electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) without having to resort to nuclear power, the South China Morning Post (SCMP)reported on November 1.

    A PLAN aircraft carrier equipped with EMALS would substantially boost the PLANs carrier force’s combat power. “CATOBAR aircraft launch systems put less strain on the airframe of planes during takeoff reducing maintenance cost in the long run and also allows carrier-based aircraft to carry a heavier weapons payload,” I explained elsewhere. “Furthermore, CATOBAR launch systems increase the sortie rates of carrier air wings by allowing a faster landing and takeoff rate.”

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    Among other things, it would allow the PLAN to launch including aerial tankers, airborne early warning aircraft, anti-submarine warfare (ASW) planes, and transport aircraft from the carrier’s deck.

    The Type 002 could become the first non-Western carrier to be equipped with a CATOBAR aircraft launch system. (The Indian Navy’s new aircraft carrier, the 65,000-ton supercarrier INS Vishal, will also likely feature CATOBAR technology. However, the carrier construction program has been hampered by delays and it is likely that the Type 002 will be commissioned before the INS Vishal.) The PLAN has reportedly been evaluating CATOBAR systems, one steam and the other electromagnetic, at the Xincheng Aircraft Training Center.

    The PLA has run “hundreds of tests” using the EMALS with Shenyang J-15 multirole fighter jets, a variant of the fourth-generation Sukhoi Su-33 twin-engines air superiority fighter, Yin Zhuo, a senior researcher at the PLA Naval Equipment Research Center, said in an interview with China Central Television on November 3.

    According to PLA naval expert, senior Chinese military is keen to use the new IPS for the carrier. “China doesn’t need to copy the United States and use nuclear reactors to support EMALS and other energy-hungry weapons on the ship, because it now has more advanced technologies to solve the problem,” the expert claims.

    “China now has mature technologies … [and] the PLA is narrowing the gap with the U.S.,” he added. The PLAN’s top naval engineer Rear Admiral Ma Weiming, claims that the Chinese EMALS variant will be superior to U.S. technology. The U.S. Navy’s next-generation of aircraft carriers, the nuclear-powered Gerald R. Ford-class, is slated to be equipped with EMALS, despite objections to its installation by U.S. President Donald Trump.

    The new IPS would reportedly allow the Type 002 to be armed with high-energy consuming laser weapon systems and electromagnetic guns. The new carrier will purportedly have a displacement of around 85,000 tons. Construction of the carrier allegedly started already in February 2016.

     
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    Unless the carrier is nuke powered which is deemed to have Lifetime unlimited power, then use electric catapult , and DON'T use steam at all. I will explain why.

    The whole issue is to overcome the need of Long Runway to launch heavily loaded planes. There is the more generic solution in the video:





    Why? Because it is COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT of other complex systems (which can fail especially after being attacked). Steam & Electrical Power can fail, especially steam take too many hours to start up and get ready for urgent uses. In a war, carriers can suffer missiles and torpedo strikes or shells or bombs, or anything, may be your own combat crippled planes crashed exploded on your carrier decks. Your steam pipes or boilers or catapult rails or electrical cables or generators or power bank batteries can be knocked out. Can you still launch heavily loaded planes quickly? Yes, fix as many solid fuel disposable rocket boosters on any planes as necessary, they will take off from short runways! Even as your carrier is half sunk, everything not working, you can still launch out planes, as long as you still have these small solid fuel disposable rocket boosters. And you can easily resupply these booster rocket stocks using helicopters from a supply ship or base or anywhere, one helicopter landing can supply hundreds of these rockets enough to launch ALL PLANES on your carrier.

    That is why it must be implemented, as a MAIN or BACKUP or PARALLEL solution, and train pilots and crews to be skillful with this, and refit all carrier based fighters, bombers, attack, anti-sub, radar, AWAC, spy, drones, transport, etc fixed wing planes with rocket mounts. They can even help helicopters to take off faster with heavy loads.


    These JATO videos show rockets only used after lift-off, but on carrier runways, you can use slightly longer duration rockets and ignite together with afterburner. The rocket can be composite materials same as those currently used by Kim Jong Nuke, and after lifting off, they are ejected into the sea automatically discarded.

     
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    Further, by today's technology level it is absolutely possible to develop hybrid automated take-off and landing systems that works all weather. The system includes in-flight hardware and software and sensors and actuators as well as systems on the carrier. It is possible to be 100% accurate and faultless in even total darkness and bad weather. These will reduce accidental losses and cut cost and cut the long training periods for crews and pilots. American carriers are actually very primitive and manual in these areas, in comparison with Chinese who proved that their un-maned spacecraft can automatically and perfectly dock and disengage, to land and take-off automatically from carrier with more technically advanced and automated ways is surely possible and will beat USA hands down in no time.
     
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    Folks reading this might find it amusing the man who invented the Jet Assisted Take Off strap on rockets is none other than Tsien Hsue Shen. Tsien was USA rocket expert during WW2. And invented JATO to help military planes take off in short runways. He founded Jet Propulsion Lab JPL , which is still top USA company in rockets. Then he was kicked out of USA on trump up charges he was communist when he was not. He went back to China and Silkworms and DongFeng rockets were borned. He was also instrumental in China A bomb and H bomb.



     

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