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    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-03-07/doc-ifxipenp2898975.shtml

    美将阿帕奇交给印度生产 张召忠:怕是要摔成飞饼
    2018年03月07日 16:07 新浪军事

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      印度摔飞机是出了名的,40年摔了1000架,再好的飞机到了印度手里都能以各种奇葩理由摔给你看。

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      印度豹直升机坠毁

      然而继F-16之后,美国还是把非常先进的“阿帕奇”直升机的机身等结构件交给印度生产,而且印度将成为大名鼎鼎的“阿帕奇”直升机机身唯一的生产商!

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      美军AH-64“阿帕奇”武装直升机

      如果说F-16比较落后了,美国想甩掉包袱,生产线打包给印度话可以理解。这个“阿帕奇”直升机还是很先进的,而且不只是简单组装,以后所有“阿帕奇”机身,不管是卖给印度的还是给其它国家的,机身这个壳子还有一些零散的结构件都是100%印度制造,印度这次和美国合作长进了不少。

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      网友恶搞的图片

      印度一直心气很高,在南亚霸道惯了,什么都想和中国比,觉得中国能造的东西印度凭什么不行?莫迪上台以后力推印度制造,花了100多亿美元,把美国F-16 战机最新型号Block 70的生产线买下了,印度塔塔集团和美国洛克希德马丁合作生产,美其名曰“印度制造”,实际上印度就承担一个装配任务,美国才不会让你真学到什么核心技术。

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      印度的F-16生产线

      这次同样是印度塔塔集团出来和波音合作,两家合伙在印度南部城市海德拉巴建立工厂来生产“阿帕奇”直升机的机身。

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      塔塔集团和波音公司

      为合资工厂建成剪彩

      现在工厂已经建成,等工人培训、设备调试都结束,印度就能开始生产“阿帕奇”直升机的机身了,预计在今年就能正式投产,以后欧洲国家还有东亚的日本、韩国甚至美国陆军自己采购的“阿帕奇”都是印度制造。

      印度航空业劣迹斑斑,美国为啥放心把“阿帕奇”直升机生产线交给印度?

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      阿帕奇生产线

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      首先当然要宰印度这只肥羊一笔。看着俄罗斯这些年在印度坑了不少钱,美国也这个“奸商”怎么会错过大好机会~

      你印度不是想要技术转移以及“MAKE IN INDIA(印度制造)”吗,这些都不是问题,我跟你印度合资生产,你把怎么造壳子学会就行,这价钱咱们要好好商量商量了。就在2017年,印度大手一挥花了6.5亿美元从美国购买6架阿帕奇直升机,平均一架1亿多美元。

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      印度已经从美国买到了不少“阿帕奇”直升机,但这次机身全部交给印度生产,连美国自己都要用印度货,不担心质量问题吗?

      这里要注意一个区别,那就是生产机身的是印度塔塔集团,而不是“战功赫赫”,碰谁谁倒霉的印度斯坦航空公司。

      塔塔集团相对印度斯坦公司靠谱很多,它的汽车业务在全世界都很出名了,同时军工业务也很强:什么无人机、雷达、军用车辆、导弹、电子战系统、防空系统都造过,还和美国贝尔合作制造过贝尔407GX/GT直升机的机身,算是经验丰富了。

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      印度塔塔公司与美国贝尔

      合作生产的直升机

      就算塔塔集团生产、组装的零件合格,“阿帕奇”直升机在印度估计也难逃一劫,三哥飞行员的散漫态度那不是吹的。

      俄罗斯卖给印度的飞机老是坠毁,印度就推卸责任说是俄罗斯飞机“质量堪忧”,把俄罗斯军工产品名声都搞臭了,那美国的C-130J“大力神”运输机摔在印度手里就没话说了吧?

      这款经典的运输机非常成熟,以性能稳定著称。放别人手里好好地,偏偏印度买了6架回来,训练时候就坠毁一架。

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      C-130J在印度坠毁

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      印度不好把责任推给美国,就甩锅推给中国,印度媒体在那炒作说C-130J坠毁就是因为飞机液晶屏有中国生产的零部件,全都是中国害得。

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      最后派专家去调查,就是飞行员操作失误。这三哥飞行员经常马马虎虎的,训练也不好好训练,操作严重失误,没打仗呢就摔了一架运输机,5名机组人员全部死亡,这锅我们不背。

      飞行员水平低、训练差是一方面,印度斯坦航空公司也同样功不可没,有寡妇制造者之称,凡是它组装、制造、维修过的飞机,基本都要出事,

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      苏-30MKI坠毁

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      “光辉”战机坠毁

      印度斯坦航空公司组装2架,大修8架米格-21,其中8架坠毁;大修法国的幻影-2000四架、全部坠毁;还有米格27、苏30MKI等等,维修后意外坠毁率在70%-100%之间,三哥飞行员开这些维修过的飞机都心惊胆战。

      局座之前在节目里就谈过印度飞机为什么老坠毁:

      小编自己拆笔记本清理风扇,完事后装回去发现多了一个螺丝,还要找一找是哪里没有装上。这印度飞机维修完,发现多了一大把螺丝也不管,态度很随意,能不出大问题吗?

      印度这回可算“扬眉吐气”一把,说“阿帕奇”直升机是印度制造,我们就祈祷这款经典直升机在三哥手里别摔成印度“飞饼”吧。

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      免责声明:三哥再摔飞机千万别让战忽局背锅啊~(作者署名:局座召忠)
     
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    http://www.livemint.com/Industry/QR...madeinIndia-Apache-helicopters-next-year.html

    Boeing to deliver made-in-India Apache helicopters next year
    Boeing will make the Apache fuselage at Tata Advanced Systems’ facility Hyderabad which will be ready by end of the year, and will then be taken to the US for fitting
    Last Published: Tue, Aug 29 2017. 06 55 AM IST
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    India bought 22 Apaches and 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters worth $3 billion for the Indian Air Force under a government-to-government deal with the US in 2015. File photo: AFP
    New Delhi: Boeing Co. will start manufacturing and handing over made in India Apache AH-64E multi-role attack helicopter fuselages from next year, the company said on Monday.

    India bought 22 Apaches and 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters worth $3 billion for the Indian Air Force (IAF) under a government-to-government deal with the US in 2015.

    This month it ordered six additional Apache AH-64E helicopters valued at Rs4,168 crore for the Indian Army.

    Boeing will make the helicopter fuselage at Tata Advanced Systems’ Hyderabad facility which will be ready by end of the year and the fuselage will then be taken to the US for fitting before being sent to customers. While the first Apaches for Indian Air Force will be delivered in 2019 and are being built in the US and other places, the Indian Army Apache will be made locally.

    “We are ahead of schedule,” said Pratyush Kumar, president of Boeing India, referring to the production with the Tata firm, said at a press briefing in the capital on Monday. Boeing has won contracts worth about $14 billion from India over the past few years, including for the supply of C17 Globemaster transport planes, Harpoon missiles, P-8 anti-submarine warfare jets, Apaches and Chinooks.

    In lieu of that, it has an offset obligation to source products and services worth about 30% of the contract value from India. A lot of work being undertaken by Indian firms is the result of this offset, but Boeing stresses that it is here for the long term. Marc Allen, president of Boeing International, told Mint in an interview last month that the firm was casting its “anchor deep into India” and more announcements are likely soon.

    The next target for Boeing is to clinch an Indian Navy deal. Boeing’s F-18, French Rafale, Swedish Saab Sea Gripen, Russian MiG-29K are contenders for a proposed $15 billion purchase of 57 fighter aircraft by the Indian Navy. Boeing expects movement on the deal by next year.

    “We submitted our RFI (request for information) in May and from what we understand they will evaluate the RFP (request for proposal) by end of this year and perhaps come up with RFP or EOI (expression of interest) sometime early next year,” Boeing’s Kumar said.

    Boeing said it has evaluated 400 suppliers who could supply to a F-18 line that could come up in India if it wins the order. The current line in St Louis, US, will not be shut down.

    With respect to concerns over whether F-18s will be compatible with Indian aircraft carriers which are mostly of Russian origin, Boeing said simulations had been conducted and it was sure the planes would be able to use the carriers and with a “meaningful” weapons payload.

    The actual trials are still some time away.

    India was the world’s fifth highest defence spender in 2016 with a total expenditure of $55.9 billion, up 8.5% from the previous year, according to Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.
     
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    RSAF dare to buy?

    https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...a-sign-pact-lockheed-martin-983595-2017-06-19

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    F-16 fighter jets will now be made in India, Tatas sign pact with Lockheed Martin
    F-16 fighter jets will now be made in India, Tatas sign pact with Lockheed Martin
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    • The announcement comes ahead of PM Modi's US tour
    • Indo-US defence collaboration has increased over the years
    • India will also be able to export F-16 Block 70 aircraft
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    In a major boost to indigenous defence production to become self-reliant in the defence sector, Lockheed Martin today inked an agreement with Tata Advanced Systems to produce F-16 fighter jets in India.

    The F-16 Block 70 is ideally suited to meet the Indian Air Force's single-engine fighter needs and this unmatched US-Indian industry partnership directly supports India's initiative to develop private aerospace and defense manufacturing capacity in India.

    This F-16 production partnership between the world's largest defense contractor and India's premier industrial house provides India the opportunity to produce, operate and export F-16 Block 70 aircraft, the newest and most advanced version of the world's most successful, combat-proven multi-role fighter.

    The announcement comes days before Prime Minister Narendra Modi travels to Washington for a first meeting with US President Donald Trump scheduled for June 26.

    India and the United States have built a close defence relationship in recent years with Washington emerging as among the top three arms suppliers to India, along with Russia and Israel.

    India will also have the chance to export the F-16 that is flown by air forces around the world, a joint statement issued by the two companies said.

    "This unprecedented F-16 production partnership between the world's largest defense contractor and India's premier industrial house provides India the opportunity to produce, operate and export F-16 Block 70 aircraft, the newest and most advanced version of the world's most successful, combat-proven multi-role fighter," the statement said.

    F-16 production in India also supports thousands of Lockheed Martin and F-16 supplier jobs in the US, creates new manufacturing jobs in India, and positions Indian industry at the center of the most extensive fighter aircraft supply ecosystem in the world.

    "Our partnership significantly strengthens the F-16 'Make in India' offer, creates and maintains numerous new job opportunities in India and the US, and brings the world's most combat-proven multi-role fighter aircraft to India, the statement said.

    With more than 4,500 produced and approximately 3,200 operational aircraft worldwide being flown today by 26 countries, the F-16 remains the world's most successful, combat-proven multi-role fighter ever produced. The F-16 Block 70 is the newest and most technologically advanced F-16 ever offered.

    Also read:

    Lockheed has Make in India plans for F-16 jets, Trump wants to take a 'fresh look'

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    Sukma attack: Meet the IAF bravehearts who flew the mortal remains of the CRPF jawans
     
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    中国在世界上率先突破空天飞机技术 超美国X-37B 成本为火箭1/10
    2018-03-08 19:53 中国 /美国
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    中国此前展示的CC-1空天飞机方案

    国内媒体近日报道了一款工业部门在研的空天飞机方案,引发境外媒体集体关注。专家表示,这一技术方案的先进性远远领先于美国目前天地运输系统以及轨道飞行器,但其技术复杂程度也是空前的,现在主要是在初期的技术研发阶段。据《联合报》6日报道称,中国上个月底发射了小型多用途可重复使用空天飞机,随着中国测试这项高超音速飞行器,各国太空飞机竞赛已迈入白热化阶段。文章还称,近日中国首度成功进行了航天飞行器模型试验,试验负责人用“历史性跨越”来形容试验的重要性。

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    央视报道的中国空天飞机将卫星送入轨道

    通过以上报道,可以说明两个问题:一是中国的空天飞机在2月底,也就是春节后进行了第一次飞行,而且取得了成功还创造了新的世界航天历史;二是中国的空天飞机不是美国此前的航天飞机——那是传统火箭运送上天再像传统飞机那样降落的模式,而中国的空天飞机则是从陆地机场滑跑升空,再像传统飞机那样降落——最重要的是可多次重复使用——预计可达20次,而这样的飞行过程不但可大幅降低飞行成本,而且对于航天员和所搭载的航天器来说更安全成本也最低。

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    升空和返回与普通飞机一样将大幅降低成本

    虽然世界上很多国家都在积极开发航天新技术,而且像中国的“腾云工程”可重复使用空天飞机模式一些国家也在规划,但是像中国这样取得快速进展并试验成功的却没有一个,包括俄罗斯、美国和英国都还没做到。而在此前,世界上航天最发达的国家美国,其所使用的X-37B算是最先进的了,而在中国这次空天飞机试验成功后,美国就排到了中国后面。现在等待的是,中国后续的实际发射试验,只有当中国空天飞机实际载人或者搭载太空飞行器发射成功后,才能说中国完成了一种新型发射方式的技术开发。

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    X-37B不过是一架缩小的航天飞机

    当然,中国开发空天飞机,需要突破很多技术瓶颈,这主要是空天飞机第一级所使用的吸气式火箭发动机。在2月底的试验证明中国已经取得了吸气式火箭发动机的技术成功,据称这种火箭在起飞时可将空天飞机加速到超过5马赫,而在与第二级——任务载荷所在的飞行器分离时可最大赋予其以20马赫的速度,之后就会返回地面经过检修后准备执行下一次发射任务。这一技术,比起现在被美国吹得神乎其神的猎鹰9号可回收火箭更先进,成本也更低,据说仅为普通火箭的1/10。

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    中国空天飞行分三步走在2030年全部实现

    分析认为,中国航天近些年取得的成就举世瞩目,特别是在一些关键的领域,中国航天正在加速追赶美国,比如2016年创下22次的航天发射记录以及2018年将进行36次发射任务——这将是新的纪录,因此中国航天的一举一动已受到国外媒体的广泛关注。但大家最关心的是,中国航天计划的在2020年正式试飞空天飞机的计划能否顺利实现,因为这关乎一项世界新技术的诞生。如若这一步实现,那么,在向300~500公里高度的轨道发射航天器时,中国有望率先实现“快速、可靠、廉价”的航天运输新模式。
     
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    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/420803-cohen-nuclear-race-washington-moscow/

    How Washington provoked, and perhaps lost, a new nuclear-arms race - Stephen Cohen
    Published time: 8 Mar, 2018 16:29
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    Putin declares that the long US attempt to gain nuclear superiority over Russia has failed and hopes Washington will “listen now.”
    Stephen F. Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian Studies and Politics at NYU and Princeton, and John Batchelor continue their (usually) weekly discussions of the new US-Russian Cold War. (Previous installments, now in their fourth year, are at TheNation.com.)

    Cohen explains that President Putin’s speech to both houses of the Russian parliament on March 1, somewhat akin to the US president’s annual State of the Union address, was composed of two distinct parts. The first approximately two-thirds was pitched to the upcoming Russian presidential election, on March 18, and to domestic concerns of Russian voters, which are not unlike those of American voters: stability, jobs, health care, education, taxes, infrastructures, etc. The latter part of the speech was, however, devoted solely to recent achievements in Russia’s strategic, or nuclear, weapons. These remarks, though also of electoral value, were addressed directly to Washington. Putin’s overarching point was that Russia has thwarted Washington’s two-decade-long effort to gain nuclear superiority over—and thus a survivable first-strike capability against—Russia. His attendant conclusion was that one era in post-Soviet Russian-American strategic relations has ended and a new one has begun. This part of Putin’s speech makes it among the important he has delivered during his 18 years in power. (It is on the ACEWA website eastwestaccord.com.)

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    [​IMG] ‘Why would we want a world without Russia?’ Putin on Moscow’s nuclear doctrine
    The historical background, to which Putin refers repeatedly for his own purposes, is important. Ever since the United States and Soviet Union, the two nuclear superpowers, acquired the ability to deliver transcontinental nuclear warheads against the other, three alternative approaches to this existential reality have informed debates and policy-making: nuclear-weapons abolitionism, which Cohen regards as an essential aspiration but not a realistic one in the foreseeable future; a quest for nuclear superiority, making a devastating first-strike immune to an equally catastrophic retaliation and thus “survivable” and thinkable; and mutual security based on “Mutual Assured Destruction” (MAD) and on the principle of “strategic parity,” which meant both sides should have roughly equal nuclear capabilities and neither should strive for a first-strike superiority.

    During the preceding Cold War, by the late 1960s and early 1970s, both Washington and Moscow officially embraced the latter, mutual security approach. MAD, however fearful its reasoning, was accepted as the safest—only rational—approach, along with the need to maintain rough strategic parity. Hence the succession of US-Soviet nuclear arms control treaties, including reductions in arsenals. Nuclear technology continued to develop, making weapons ever more destructive, but MAD and the parity principle contained the technology and kept the nuclear peace despite some near misses. This approach reached its most hopeful apogee in the late 1980s when President Ronald Reagan and the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, expanded their understanding of “mutual security.” They agreed that any strategic “build up” by one side would be perceived as a threat by the other, which would then undertake its own reciprocal buildup. They agreed to end this perilous dialectic, which had driven the nuclear-arms race for decades, and indeed in 1987 abolished for the first (and last) time an entire category of nuclear weapons, those borne by intermediate-range missiles. This exceedingly hopeful opportunity, the legacy of Reagan and Gorbachev, was lost almost immediately after the Soviet Union ended in 1991. As Cohen wrote 10 years ago in his book Soviet Fates and Lost Alternatives, “The Cold War ended in Moscow, but not in Washington.”

    Beginning in the 1990s, successive US administrations—under Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama—sought de facto nuclear superiority over post-Soviet Russia. Animated by rampant post–Cold War (misconceived) triumphalism and by a perception that Russia was now too weak, demoralized, or supplicant to compete, they did so in three ways: by expanding NATO to Russia’s borders; by funding ever more destructive, “precise,” and “usable” nuclear weapons; and, in 2002, by unilaterally withdrawing from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. By prohibiting wide deployment of anti–missile defense installments (each side got one exception at home), the treaty had long guaranteed mutual security based on the underlying principles of MAD and parity. Bush’s abolition of the ABM Treaty in effect abolished those principles and signified Washington’s quest for nuclear superiority over Russia. Today, there are scores of deployed American missile-defense installments, which are officially a NATO project as well, around the world, including on land and at sea bordering Russia. From the beginning, Washington maintained, as it does today, that “Our missile defense has never been about Russia,” only about Iran and other “rogue states,” but this has always been a fairy tale believed by no sensible observer and certainly not by Moscow.

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    All of the new Russian nuclear weapons itemized by Putin in his March 1 speech, long in development, have been designed to evade—to thwart and render useless—Washington’s global missile-defense program developed over decades at enormous financial, political, and real security costs. The US political-media establishment has widely dismissed Putin’s claims as a “bluff,”“aggressive,” and “saber-rattling.” But these traits have never characterized Putin’s major policy statements, nor do they this one. If even only a quarter of Putin’s claims for Russia’s new nuclear weapons is true, it means that while Washington heedlessly raced for nuclear superiority and a first-strike capability, Moscow quietly, determinedly raced to develop counter-systems, and—again, assuming Putin’s claims are substantially true—Russia won. From Moscow’s perspective, which in this existential case should also be ours, Russia has regained the strategic parity it lost after the end of the Soviet Union and with it the “mutual security” of MAD.

    Putin’s speech, if read carefully, also reveals and raises vital political questions. Cohen identifies and discusses several of them:

    § At one point, Putin remarkably says “we ourselves are to blame” for the dire strategic condition in which Russia found itself in the early 2000s. Presumably he is referring to his own “illusions” about the West, particularly about Washington, to which he has previously alluded, though only cryptically. Presumably he is referring to his own fruitless appeals to “our Western partners” for policies of mutual security instead of NATO expansion and unilateral missile-defense installments, “illusionary” appeals for which he has sometimes been criticized by actual anti-Western forces in Russia’s political-security establishment. As Putin admits, his “Western partners” did not “listen.” This is compelling evidence that Putin himself changed in response to US-NATO policies during his years in power, but also that he is capable of change again given Western initiatives.

    § In the speech, Putin does not comment directly on past or current nuclear-arms races, but he makes clear that another, more dangerous one looms, depending on how Washington reacts to Moscow’s new weapons. Washington can accept the parity, or deterrent, Russia has restored and return to full-scale nuclear-arms negotiations; or it can try again to surpass Moscow’s parity. If the latter, he says, Russia is fully able and ready to compete, again and again, though he makes clear he would prefer instead to commit his remaining years of leadership, legacy, and national resources to Russia’s modernization and prosperity, which he spells out (yet again) in the first two-thirds of his speech. He insists, that is, the new weapons are not for any kind of aggression but solely for Russia’s legitimate military defense and, politically, to bring Washington back to détente-like policies and particularly to nuclear arms negotiations. The Kremlin, he adds, is “ready.”

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    § Even having made a compelling and obviously proud presentation of what Russia has unexpectedly achieved, does Putin really believe Washington will “listen now”? He may still have some “illusions,” but we should have none. In recent years, there has been ample evidence that US policy-makers and, equally important, mainstream media commentators do not bother to read what Putin says, or at least not more than snatches from click-bait wire-service reports. Still worse, Putin and “Putin’s Russia” have been so demonized that it is hard to imagine any leading American political figures or editorial commentators responding positively to what is plainly his hope for a new beginning in US-Russian relations. If nothing else, strategic parity always also meant political parity—recognizing that Soviet Russia, like the United States, had legitimate national interests abroad. The years of American vilifying Putin and Russia are essentially an assertion that neither has any such legitimacy. And making matters worse, there are the still unproven allegations of “Russiagate” collusion. Even if President Trump understands, or is made to understand, the new—possibly historic—overture represented by Putin’s speech, would the “Kremlin puppet” allegations made daily against him permit him to seize this opportunity? Indeed, do the promoters of “Russiagate” care?

    Viewed still more broadly, Cohen concludes, history has taught that technology sometimes outruns political capacity to control it. Several of Russia’s new nuclear weapons were unforeseen. (If US intelligence was not fully aware of their development prior to Putin’s speech, what were those agencies doing instead?) It is no longer possible to dismiss Russia, again declared to be America’s number-one threat, as anything less than a nuclear superpower fully equal (at least) to the United States. If Washington does not “listen now,” if instead it again strives for superiority, we may reasonably ask: We survived the preceding Cold War, but can we survive this one? Put somewhat differently, is what Putin displayed but also offered on March 1, 2018, our last chance? In any event, he was right: “This is a turning point for the entire world.”

    By Stephen F. Cohen

    Stephen F. Cohen is a professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at New York University and Princeton University and a contributing editor of The Nation.

    This article was originally published by The Nation.
     
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    The Yankees failed both to make any equivalent hypersonic glider weapon, as well as find any effective counter measure against Chinese hypersonic.

    The US Navy fleets of surface warships are all exposed to Chinese attacks, especially carriers, and be sunk by PLA, globally. No more place to hide!

    The US can only either give up and surrender or up the stake to nuke China after their fleets are sunk by PLA. But nuke does not mean USA got any advantage in the arena of nuke at all. PLA rocket army nukes are newer and better than USA's and China is not as fragile as USA and can survive better than USA after they cross-nuke each other out.
     
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    Fuck you tony chat. Spill yr nonsense again 多嘴。

     
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    Great reply. Now Chinese turns to call American gunboats Junk.

    What a sweet revenge to fuck Pommies call them junk, uncouth, Iil mannered and bankrupt beggar white trash.


     
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    You are a single and shitskin Sinkie.

     
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    Taiwan has always been part of mainland China and the sooner China unifies it whether peacefully or by force, the better! Then the USA has 1 less lever to play with.
     
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    At the pinnacle strategic advantage point, in control of most important capabilities and technologies of war, a superpower defines and sets new rules of war for the future. And Chinese weapon maker says "IT IS NOW BY CHINESE RULES".

    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-03-10/doc-ifxpwyhw5914625.shtml

    歼20之父:未来战争模式就用我们装备按我的玩法准备
    歼20之父:未来战争模式就用我们装备按我的玩法准备

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      我们的“自由王国”是不甘心于只听别人讲故事

      “从之前别人做什么,我们跟着做,到今天国家战略需要什么,我们就能干什么。”杨伟说,我们已经从“必然王国”迈向了“自由王国”。

      在杨伟看来,所谓的“自由王国”就是从战略需求开始,有自己的战略目标和装备发展路线,在不参照别人、甚至没有先例情况下做自己的创造,并且有着更多的技术自信和发展自信。

      “以前经常要了解别人怎么做的,别人这样做了我们才有信心跟着去做。但现在我们实现了自我超越,尽管我们依据的科学原理、技术基础和装备制造技术都是通用的,但我们的需求是独特的、我们的技术路线是独立的。”杨伟说,实际上就变成别人要研究我们下一步怎么走,“这也是我以前的一个目标,要让你值得对手研究。你都不值得对手研究,还搞什么博弈?!”

      “自由王国”开创了一个思维习惯,不盲目跟跑,不人云亦云,有自己的独立思考,对需求战略、发展路线勇于牵引、探索,而且矢志不渝、坚定信心地为之努力。杨伟说,既然认定了我们的战略需求,认定了未来战争模式,我们就用我们的装备按我的玩法做准备,“军工博弈标准制定方不会是恒定的,我们不能满足于或甘心听别人讲故事,为什么我们不能追求未来战机由我们中国来制定标准呢?!”

      装备智能化趋势:“网+”与“体系+”

      对于“下一代主战装备会有无人平台吗”这样的疑问,杨伟认为,智能化有两个含义,一个是帮助人,一个是替代人;帮助人,照样可以有人,替代人才是无人。而就“无人”来说,智能的水平可以从很“傻”一直到很“聪明”,遥控飞机没人,它是无人机,但遥控飞机不是我们未来意义上的无人飞机。杨伟说,他个人不太倾向于强调无人还是有人,核心是智能化的能力,自主化的等级。人机混合智能化在一定时期肯定会起到更好的效果。

      他认为,航空武器装备要持续推进“三化”。我们要持续发展机械化,机械化是装备的基础,发展是无止境的;我们要全面发展信息化,信息化是武器效能的倍增器,在当今战争中正起着决定性的作用;我们要创新突破智能化,是实现弯道超车、跨越发展的目标。当前,我国AI领域发展迅速,“AI+”也正在不断创造新的发展生态,杨伟认为这也引发了军事领域的某些变革,为我们提出了更多的发展方向和指导,“网+”与“体系+”将会是装备发展的创新突破点。

      先手在于谁能率先突破

      谈到创新,杨伟表示,国防工业实际上是博弈的行业,要用更先进的装备来保卫国家主权和发展权,装备的先进性就体现在博弈对手要有所突破,取得先手,国防工业创新的必要性和牵动性,以及最终的作用要比其他行业需求更大,它的发展过程或者说发展的动力更足,发展结果体现最明显。

      聚焦到航空工业,杨伟分析说,第一梯队仍是美国引领的,无论是在军机、民机还是特种飞机,美国有强大的科技和经济基础;第二梯队是中国、俄罗斯和欧洲。我国军机特别是战斗机领域经过这么多年努力,逐步地跃到了第二梯队靠前的位置,这是被世界所逐步认可的,民机还处在追赶的过程,而在航空相关的基础领域研究近几年势头也比较好,无论是基本理论、特定装备以及材料、工艺、制造技术,等等,我们现在也是在往上走;第三梯队就是其他国家。杨伟表示,尽管我们和第一梯队还有一定差距,但我们正加快速度、想方设法、全力以赴地去追赶,力争在不久的将来实现并驾齐驱甚至整体超越。

      “只有坚持创新的思维,才能够不断牵引我们实现战略目标。”杨伟认为,目前最迫切需要解决的还是在各个细分领域采取不同策略,不但要在技术基础方面创新,更重要的是装备发展路线以及装备的设定、博弈方式等全方位的创新。

      推荐阅读:比美航母还牛!中国这个25万吨的庞然大物干了一件震撼世界的大事 查看详情请搜索微信公众号:sinamilnews

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    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-03-10/doc-ifxpwyhw5887685.shtml

    杨伟总师:歼20研发态势迅猛 后面我们更不会停歇
    2018年03月10日 09:55 环球网

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      歼20不只是“踹门一脚”

      曾有专业人士评价:歼20飞机是“踹门一脚”“一根针破一张网”的“典型武器”。

      作为歼20的总设计师,杨伟对此回应道,歼20无疑是目前中国战斗机谱系中能力最强的一个,这也是我们的目标。既然有了最强的装备,就会把这个装备在实战过程中用到最关键的地方。“踹门”肯定是关键的一个方面,但仅用“踹门”来说还有一定局限,它还会其他的作用。这和批量也有关系,当批量少的时候是一种应用,装备数量多的时候又会是一种应用。“最强的制空装备,什么时候需要它,它就会发挥其举足轻重的作用。”

      对于歼20的期望,杨伟说,看历史就可以知未来,歼10自2004年装备部队,到现在还在不断发展、推陈出新,战斗力也在不断提升。歼20以后肯定是系列发展,这既符合科学规律,也是国家的需要。

      杨伟说,从“代”上来讲,我们和美国、俄罗斯都在第四代范畴内(国外也称为五代机),大家都会想下面该怎么走。歼20研发态势迅猛,后面我们更不会停歇。随着歼20系列飞机的发展壮大,我们也会再开辟新的领域,满足国家战略需求。

      下一代战机什么样?

      对未来我们总是充满好奇。下一代战机到底什么样?杨伟回答,作为下一代战机,一定是机械化、信息化、智能化的集合体。他认为,美国以前提出的四代机“4S”特性,即“隐身、超声速巡航、过失速机动、综合化信息系统”并不是一个很规范的说法,目前美、俄、中都有四代机,但是对于各个特征的权重把握并不一致,这也说明各家的发展思路不尽相同。他说,在未来博弈过程里,机械化必然会遇到一个“坎”,必须得过了这个“坎”以后才能有“柳暗花明”,它是个基础,但是当过了这个“坎”以后,机械化对整个战争效能的贡献就不像以前那么大了,实际上最核心的还是信息化和智能化。

      “我想下一代战斗机应该是在更高的机械化平台上,更加追求信息化,特别是智能化。”杨伟表示,当再研究一个新飞机的时候,更多的还是要考虑平台,因为信息化和智能化到哪儿都用得上,不需要重新再造个壳子,核心还得明确和把握好机械化、信息化和智能化一体的良好综合。

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    歼20总师称我的一个梦想 未来战机由中国制定标准
    歼20总师称我的一个梦想 未来战机由中国制定标准

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      “你是战鹰家族的不老传说,引领在这头,希冀在那头。”前不久,杨伟写给2035年歼20飞机的一封信触动全国军迷的心弦,全国人大代表、中国科学院院士、航空工业科技委副主任杨伟在全国两会期间接受中国航空报社记者专访表示,歼20系列飞机将逐步发展壮大,之后会再开辟新的领域,满足国家战略需求。他同时谈到了自己心目中下一代战机的构想。

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      歼10为我们进入“自由王国”打下了坚强的基础

      杨伟曾在接受媒体采访时说,歼10飞机的问世,探索出了一条使我国战斗机发展能够从“必然王国”向“自由王国”迈进的光明大道。

      歼10是我国第一型自主研发的第三代战斗机,1998年3月23日首飞到今年3月23日已经整整20年,而对歼10的改进研制从未停止向前迈进的脚步,如今歼10A、B、C、双座等相继展翅云霄,歼10已成系列化发展。作为歼10系列改进型的总设计师,杨伟表示,歼10的研制成功给中国航空工业增添了持续自主打造跨代新机的信心,并且实现了当时定下了三大目标:一是研制一款新型战机;二是创建一套创新研发的体系;三是锻炼一支能研制跨代新机的创新型队伍。杨伟说,歼10的研制开创了我国很多个第一,填补了多项技术空白,包括综合航电、飞控等配套基础和试验设施手段都是当时建起来的,而且现在中国很多航空技术核心和重要研究人员当年都曾经参加歼10的研制,歼10为中国航空工业积累了大量的技术、人才、平台、精神等财富。

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      “歼10在部队的列装为捍卫国家主权、发展权增添了重要的力量,现在我国三代机的能力、数量和周边国家相比都逐步上来了。这一型飞机,为空军在作战准备、作战训练体制、装备应用体制等方面持续升级发挥了积极的促进作用。”杨伟表示,歼10系列飞机的牵引作用是全面的,不单只是一型飞机。

      我们的“自由王国”是不甘心于只听别人讲故事

      “从之前别人做什么,我们跟着做,到今天国家战略需要什么,我们就能干什么。”杨伟说,我们已经从“必然王国”迈向了“自由王国”。

      在杨伟看来,所谓的“自由王国”就是从战略需求开始,有自己的战略目标和装备发展路线,在不参照别人、甚至没有先例情况下做自己的创造,并且有着更多的技术自信和发展自信。

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      “以前经常要了解别人怎么做的,别人这样做了我们才有信心跟着去做。但现在我们实现了自我超越,尽管我们依据的科学原理、技术基础和装备制造技术都是通用的,但我们的需求是独特的、我们的技术路线是独立的。”杨伟说,实际上就变成别人要研究我们下一步怎么走,“这也是我以前的一个目标,要让你值得对手研究。你都不值得对手研究,还搞什么博弈?!”

    [​IMG]
      “自由王国”开创了一个思维习惯,不盲目跟跑,不人云亦云,有自己的独立思考,对需求战略、发展路线勇于牵引、探索,而且矢志不渝、坚定信心地为之努力。杨伟说,既然认定了我们的战略需求,认定了未来战争模式,我们就用我们的装备按我的玩法做准备,“军工博弈标准制定方不会是恒定的,我们不能满足于或甘心听别人讲故事,为什么我们不能追求未来战机由我们中国来制定标准呢?!”

      歼20不只是“踹门一脚”

      曾有专业人士评价:歼20飞机是“踹门一脚”“一根针破一张网”的“典型武器”。

      作为歼20的总设计师,杨伟对此回应道,歼20无疑是目前中国战斗机谱系中能力最强的一个,这也是我们的目标。既然有了最强的装备,就会把这个装备在实战过程中用到最关键的地方。“踹门”肯定是关键的一个方面,但仅用“踹门”来说还有一定局限,它还会其他的作用。这和批量也有关系,当批量少的时候是一种应用,装备数量多的时候又会是一种应用。“最强的制空装备,什么时候需要它,它就会发挥其举足轻重的作用。”

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      对于歼20的期望,杨伟说,看历史就可以知未来,歼10自2004年装备部队,到现在还在不断发展、推陈出新,战斗力也在不断提升。歼20以后肯定是系列发展,这既符合科学规律,也是国家的需要。

      杨伟说,从“代”上来讲,我们和美国、俄罗斯都在第四代范畴内(国外也称为五代机),大家都会想下面该怎么走。歼20研发态势迅猛,后面我们更不会停歇。随着歼20系列飞机的发展壮大,我们也会再开辟新的领域,满足国家战略需求。

      下一代战机什么样?

      对未来我们总是充满好奇。下一代战机到底什么样?杨伟回答,作为下一代战机,一定是机械化、信息化、智能化的集合体。他认为,美国以前提出的四代机“4S”特性,即“隐身、超声速巡航、过失速机动、综合化信息系统”并不是一个很规范的说法,目前美、俄、中都有四代机,但是对于各个特征的权重把握并不一致,这也说明各家的发展思路不尽相同。他说,在未来博弈过程里,机械化必然会遇到一个“坎”,必须得过了这个“坎”以后才能有“柳暗花明”,它是个基础,但是当过了这个“坎”以后,机械化对整个战争效能的贡献就不像以前那么大了,实际上最核心的还是信息化和智能化。

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      “我想下一代战斗机应该是在更高的机械化平台上,更加追求信息化,特别是智能化。”杨伟表示,当再研究一个新飞机的时候,更多的还是要考虑平台,因为信息化和智能化到哪儿都用得上,不需要重新再造个壳子,核心还得明确和把握好机械化、信息化和智能化一体的良好综合。

      装备智能化趋势:“网+”与“体系+”

      对于“下一代主战装备会有无人平台吗”这样的疑问,杨伟认为,智能化有两个含义,一个是帮助人,一个是替代人;帮助人,照样可以有人,替代人才是无人。而就“无人”来说,智能的水平可以从很“傻”一直到很“聪明”,遥控飞机没人,它是无人机,但遥控飞机不是我们未来意义上的无人飞机。杨伟说,他个人不太倾向于强调无人还是有人,核心是智能化的能力,自主化的等级。人机混合智能化在一定时期肯定会起到更好的效果。

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      他认为,航空武器装备要持续推进“三化”。我们要持续发展机械化,机械化是装备的基础,发展是无止境的;我们要全面发展信息化,信息化是武器效能的倍增器,在当今战争中正起着决定性的作用;我们要创新突破智能化,是实现弯道超车、跨越发展的目标。当前,我国AI领域发展迅速,“AI+”也正在不断创造新的发展生态,杨伟认为这也引发了军事领域的某些变革,为我们提出了更多的发展方向和指导,“网+”与“体系+”将会是装备发展的创新突破点。

      先手在于谁能率先突破

      谈到创新,杨伟表示,国防工业实际上是博弈的行业,要用更先进的装备来保卫国家主权和发展权,装备的先进性就体现在博弈对手要有所突破,取得先手,国防工业创新的必要性和牵动性,以及最终的作用要比其他行业需求更大,它的发展过程或者说发展的动力更足,发展结果体现最明显。

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      聚焦到航空工业,杨伟分析说,第一梯队仍是美国引领的,无论是在军机、民机还是特种飞机,美国有强大的科技和经济基础;第二梯队是中国、俄罗斯和欧洲。我国军机特别是战斗机领域经过这么多年努力,逐步地跃到了第二梯队靠前的位置,这是被世界所逐步认可的,民机还处在追赶的过程,而在航空相关的基础领域研究近几年势头也比较好,无论是基本理论、特定装备以及材料、工艺、制造技术,等等,我们现在也是在往上走;第三梯队就是其他国家。杨伟表示,尽管我们和第一梯队还有一定差距,但我们正加快速度、想方设法、全力以赴地去追赶,力争在不久的将来实现并驾齐驱甚至整体超越。

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      “只有坚持创新的思维,才能够不断牵引我们实现战略目标。”杨伟认为,目前最迫切需要解决的还是在各个细分领域采取不同策略,不但要在技术基础方面创新,更重要的是装备发展路线以及装备的设定、博弈方式等全方位的创新。

      推荐阅读:比美航母还牛!中国这个25万吨的庞然大物干了一件震撼世界的大事 查看详情请搜索微信公众号:sinamilnews
     
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    Now is the parliamentary session as these scientists of war technologies inform parliament & media, an update of their works & achievements. Tell the government & people where they are standing.
     
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    China says, we use this new material to build Pigsty! And then it provided an aircraft carrier solution that can beat US Navy! The new anti-corrosion steel perfectly withstand the strong corrosion of SWINE POO! Thus builds corrosion-poof naval ships!

    The blue color piece of steel sheet I think is the material of pigsty, and it had been soaked in sea water for a year, the man stood on top and stomped on it repeatedly, it is not deformed at all.

    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-03-10/doc-ifxpwyhw5945645.shtml

    中国用这种材料建猪舍后解决世界难题 质量PK美航母
    中国用这种材料建猪舍后解决世界难题 质量PK美航母

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      原标题:不可思议!用这种中国材料建了个猪舍后,竟解决了一大世界级难题。。。还能和美国航母“PK”!

      在今年的政府工作报告中,李克强总理强调要淘汰落后产能,过去五年,中国退出的钢铁产能多达1.7亿吨以上,但退出的是螺纹钢这样的普通钢铁,中国当前急需发展的是特种钢,比如不锈钢。不锈钢在生活中很常见,我们做菜的刀、吃饭的勺子都用的是特种不锈钢料制成的。而且不锈钢的应用非常广泛,工业领域中的不锈钢五花八门,有些制造难度极高,跟着小编来认识一种由我国自主研发的特殊不锈钢。

      猪粪里泡八个月不见丝毫腐蚀 特级钢150倍耐腐蚀创造奇迹

      牧原集团刚刚跟郑州永通公司定制了一批2300吨钢材,既能解决通用不锈钢强度低的问题,也可以解决高强结构钢耐腐蚀性差的问题。起初,永通公司研发这样的新型钢材是要用在舰船、桥梁和海洋工程上面的。为的就是让一种钢材兼具高强度和耐腐蚀的性能。然而牧原集团却要用来建猪舍,这样好的钢材为什么用来做猪舍呢?

      郑州永通公司董事长 董书通:现在猪舍是世界共性难题,他们在到处寻找一些能满足的钢,我们S600E三年内经过了一些专家的认证和客户的认证检验,他们认证了这种钢是可以建长寿命猪舍的。

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      现代化猪舍的建设多数采用钢结构,而困扰猪舍建设的难题是猪粪的腐蚀性,猪粪中的酸性物质会对结构钢造成强腐蚀,时间久了,结构钢的螺丝或接口会出现松动,造成猪舍损坏,基本都会在3到5年的时间进行一次大型维修,难度和费用都不低。

      董书通:他们是用我们的钢做的设备,扔在猪粪里面,扔了八个月,没有问题才开始订货。

      正在指挥工人们干活的人叫张伯成,是在这里工作了25年的老员工,当年企业红火的场景至今历历在目。郑州永通特钢从1994年投产做弹簧钢,到1998年转型做轴承钢,一直是民营钢铁企业的佼佼者。上世纪九十年代经济的高速发展也让这个钢厂的销售额突飞猛进。

      郑州永通公司生产车间主任 张伯成:当时有职工,我记得大致有1860人想进这个厂都要走后门,得领导批条子才能进。

      最辉煌的时候,这个企业几乎每条生产线24小时都是在工作的,每年的净利润就能超过1亿元。然而,董书通并没有被当时这种红火的场景冲昏头脑。他清楚,他生产的轴承钢技术含量并不高,很可能在不久之后就会被淘汰。想要持续发展一定要有高技术产品,还要是独一无二的。

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      2005年董书通发现印尼一种镍矿的原矿石中镍元素含量较其它矿石高。而在冶炼不锈钢的过程中增加镍元素可以改善不锈钢中可塑性、可焊接性和韧性等属性。传统的不锈钢冶炼中如果需要加入镍铬元素,配比很难掌握,成本还相当高。而这些矿石中本身就含有这些元素,这个发现让董书通兴奋不已。

      董书通:完完全全是新的,不过这个晶粒度是新的,晶粒度,我们是索氏体的不锈钢,过去只有双向不锈钢、马氏体不锈钢。

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      不锈钢按结构组织又分为奥氏体不锈钢(装饰材料)、铁素体不锈钢(工业器件、汽车排气管)、马氏体不锈钢(菜刀、钢勺、支撑的钢架,低温不能使用)、双相不锈钢(结构钢),其中双相不锈钢的屈服强度能达到400-500兆帕,是其它不锈钢的两倍图表,董书通他们研发的新钢种屈服强度要高于双向不锈钢,成本却不到双向不锈钢的1/3。

      0.4毫米特级钢人踩不变形 海水浸泡一年不腐蚀

      2012年,董书通的第一批新钢种终于出炉,意味着新钢种的问世已经看到了希望。但是仍然要做更加精细的合金设计和热处理工艺,才能分析出新钢种在何种条件下能达到性能最优。然而就在新钢种胜利在望的时候,2014年的一场变故却让董书通的人生跌入了谷底。

      董书通:2014年的时候,我的状态是我这一生中,我认为最困难的一个时期,那三天我是不见人的,我就自己在那儿想怎么办。

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      2014年1月12日,印尼颁布原矿出口禁令,阻止印尼向外出口红土镍矿以及铝土矿等原矿石,原本在印尼拥有3座矿区,两亿多吨原矿的董书通受到很大影响。加上当时的洛阳分厂搬迁,没有产能,董书通所有进账全部被截断。

      董书通:印尼国家的政策,法律先发限制了,不让原矿出口了,我每年有五千万美金的现金流,突然一下子就断流了。

      当时董书的账面现金仅剩8000万元。这8000万是用来继续投产还是做新产品研发呢?董书通陷入了两难,最终他决定停止一切经济活动,集中精力搞好高强结构不锈钢的研发工作,新钢种既然是要做结构钢使用,那么钢的连接问题就得解决。剩余的8000万资金董书通全部砸在了新钢种的连接问题上,甚至在资金短缺的时候卖掉了自己的房子。

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      2017年8月,经过美国哥伦比亚大学、新加坡国立大学、中船重工725所的检测认证,确定董书通他们的高强结构钢屈服强度达到600兆帕,耐腐蚀性程度是常规碳钢的150倍,在国际上几乎少有能够达到这样指标的新型钢材,这也就意味着中国造出了超级钢。

      中国工程院院士 殷瑞钰:经过了石油、电力、机械、建筑等行业和国内外大学和实验院所的进一步实验验证试用,证实了这个钢种的高强韧性、耐蚀性。

      中国工程院院士 李鹤林:这个钢的出现使得不锈钢里有了结构钢,结构钢里有了不锈钢,完成了不锈钢向结构不锈钢的跨越。

      郑州永通公司总工程师 王平:现在通过咱们自己拍的照片,和宝钢拍的照片对比来看,我们从细部强化,到微颗粒强化非常明显。

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      董书通的助手王平正在做图像对比,电脑屏幕上的照片是刚刚拍摄过高强结构不锈钢的微晶颗粒,他正在跟美国航母甲板用钢的微晶颗粒做对比。上面的这些黑色小点就是微晶颗粒,表面分布的越匀称,说明钢材的强度和韧性越好。

      今天董书通迎来了三个重要的客人,他们对董书通研究的高强结构不锈钢非常感兴趣。这三位客人中有两位来自沿海城市,他们非常想跟董书通合作,解决沿海地区建筑用钢的锈蚀问题。

      王平:下面我演示大家看一下,我的体重是90公斤,0.4的钢板,我现在在里头抖一下看一下是踩不塌的。

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      如果是普通的0.4毫米不锈钢板,以王平的体重,可能没踩几下就会变形。而这块钢板,无论怎么踩踏,都丝毫没有变形的痕迹。在整个样品实力中,最让董书通满意的是放在海水中浸泡一年之久的钢材,并没有锈蚀的痕迹。

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      王平:在未来的岛礁建设,码头建设,以及我们将来向海外去建设的这些方面,在海上工程的时候,它都将成为一个长寿命的工程,大大的减少了建设费用。
     
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    Its good to see china spending so much money on defence to suppress and oppress their own people

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    Money is spent on fixing the enemies who were the old time bullies suffered by old time Chinese peasants. Now China have to deprive and eliminate them, make them pay back and die, no body can bully Chinese again.
     
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    ..... China power gunboats... about time to whack and 报仇 bastard opium trafficker BE American Empire this time..

    Bastard bully white trash Pommies humilate China over opium trade.

    Need to toxic nuke their England that cannot be use for 500 years.

     
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    Already got the most crazy giants but not enough! Must MACH25 and ASAP! Ang Moh can never dream to catch up!

    https://m.sohu.com/a/225760111_600556?_f=m-index_important_news_20

    东方巨龙!中国建造全球最大风洞 可模拟25马赫高超音速
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    近期,有关高超音速武器的新闻成为公众焦点,先是俄罗斯曝光研制了多款时速在10到20马赫的高超音速导弹,然后美国五角大楼又透露,解放军东风-17高超音速导弹已经服役。据央视3月16日报道,中国科学院高温气动力重点实验室透露,正在研制全球最先进的高超音速风洞系统,该风洞建成后,将能够模拟10到25马赫的高超音速环境,堪称是无与伦比的“大国重器”。

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    在此之前,中国已经建成JF-12和JP-10等多款高性能风洞,能够模拟高超音速飞行器的飞行环境,像JF-12风洞本身的技术水平已经位居世界前列,其长度高达265米,是全世界第一座能够复现高超音速飞行环境的激波风洞,但这并非是中国追求的终极目标,在中国科学家的眼中,只有能够模拟10到25马赫的超级风洞才能满足中国未来军民高超音速飞行器的发展需要,而这座风洞建成之后,也将成为当之无愧的“东方巨龙”。

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    军事专家表示,风洞是现代航空航天技术发展中无论如何都不能跨过去的一个坎,可以说风洞的性能和数量高低,决定了一个国家航空航天技术的先进与否。飞行器在试飞之前必须要经过密集的风洞测试,才能确定其气动性能,测量出飞行器模型表面的压力、压强和流场,这样一来就能够获得飞行器的各种数据,包括阻力、升力、加热特性等等,使得后续飞行器的研制工作事半功倍,风洞的作用如此重要,以至于有人说飞机是“吹出来的”。

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    以美国著名的B-52战略轰炸机为例,这款大型轰炸机在研制时经历了超过1万个小时的风洞测试,而美国航天飞机则经历了超过10万个小时的风洞测试,可以发现,随着飞行器飞行环境的复杂和严酷,所需要的风洞性能就水涨船高。军事专家表示,中国之所以研制这种世界领先的超级风洞,就是为了研制未来先进飞行器,比如说空天飞机、高超音速飞行器、高超音速导弹等等,从现状来看,中国风洞发展的前景可谓是十分广阔大有可为。
     

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