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  1. democracy my butt

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    Chinese Ambassador to USA issue statement.



    http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2017-12-09/doc-ifypnyqi2635918.shtml

    中国驻美公使:美军舰抵达高雄日就是我军武统之时
    2017年12月09日 14:23 环球网

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      台湾《联合报》9日报道称,美国国会通过的“2018财政年度国防授权法”(NDAA)中要求美国政府评估“美台军舰互停”的可行性,中国驻美公使李克新当地时间8日在华盛顿对此表示,他告诉美国国会友人,“美国军舰抵达高雄之日,就是我解放军武力统一台湾之时”。

      据台湾“联合新闻网”报道,李克新8日在中国大陆驻美大使馆主讲“解读十九大报告”侨学界专场讲座,现场有约200位两岸学生与侨界人士;李克新分析中共十九大,以及美国总统特朗普11月访华,并提及美国国会通过的《国防授权法》,其中包括“美台军舰实现互访”的条文。

      李克新表示,他向美国国会议员说,“我可能要感谢你们美国朋友”,大陆没有时间跟机会用“反分裂国家法”,若美国把军舰派过去台湾,就启动了“反分裂国家法”。

      报道称,李克新讲到此处特别低头念稿:“我告诉你,美国军舰抵达高雄之日,就是我解放军武力统一台湾之时。”他并说,这并非开玩笑,因为美国军舰若访上海,是征得中方同意,但去台湾中方肯定不同意,美国强行要去,就启动《反分裂国家法》,中方得采取行动。

      美国国会上月中公布的参、众两院“2018财政年度国防授权法”协调报告指,国会认为美方应考量美台军舰重新相互停靠的“适当性与可行性”,以及应邀请台湾军队参加“红旗”军演等。据美国国会网站资料,协调报告已经两院通过,上月30日已交美国总统特朗普,待特朗普签署后才能成法。

      《联合报》注意到,李克新在同一场合分析中共十九大对台谈话的内容时,就显得温和许多,他重申只要回归“九二共识”,两岸即可对话、两岸并非完全硬性,还有心灵沟通。他表示,“统一会让你们(台湾民众)生活更好,会让你们的小确幸变成大确幸。”

      《联合报》称,李克新还表示,十九大对台谈话中的“六个任何”反分裂时表示,和平统一是最大目标,会尽最大努力争取,“但我们绝不会放弃武力统一的选项”;他之后补充,用极端、武力来实现统一的目标肯定会是中方最后手段,要尽最大努力完成和平统一的大业。他说,在两岸总体关系,解决台湾问题的立场, 中方一贯坚持和平统一的原则。


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  2. democracy my butt

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    http://taiwanenglishnews.com/the-da...aohsiung-is-the-day-the-pla-liberates-taiwan/

    “The Day a US Warship Docks in Kaohsiung is the Day the PLA Liberates Taiwan:” Ambassador
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    December 9, 2017 Phillip Charlier 0 Comment anti-secession law, USA-Taiwan

    Chinese Ambassador to the USA, Minister Li Kexin, has told US lawmakers that proposed visits by US warships to Taiwan would violate the anti-secession law of China, and that the date of the first US warship’s arrival in Kaohsiung Harbor is the day China liberates Taiwan by force.

    Li told an audience of Chinese students and expatriates invited to a lecture in Washington DC, December 8, that he had made China’s position clear to US legislators after the US Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act 2018, which included provisions calling for a study of the feasibility of docking US warships at the port of Kaohsiung.

    Li stated that the request seriously violates the spirit of the communique on the establishment of diplomatic relations signed between the United States and China.

    The ambassador said he told US lawmakers that when the US sends its warships to Taiwan, the anti-secession law will be implemented, and the Chinese People’s Liberation Army will unify Taiwan with the mainland.

    Li stressed that this is not a joke. “China has a strong will, full confidence, and sufficient capability to achieve peaceful re-unification”, he said. “This is China’s biggest goal…this is not a bluff.”

    Taiwan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs Responds
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a response to the threats today, December 9, in a three point statement.

    In the first point, MOFA thanked US lawmakers for taking legislative action to strengthen Taiwan-US cooperation on security issues. The second point reiterated the present government of Taiwan’s commitment to promoting the peaceful and steady development of cross-strait relations through dialogue. And the third point stated that Chinese officials’ frequent use of intimidation hurts the people on both sides of the strait, and is not conducive to the positive development of cross-strait relations.

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    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3316709

    Chinese diplomat in U.S. threatens Taiwan with military attack
    If U.S. Navy vessel docks in Kaohsiung, China will attack: PRC embassy minister

    By Matthew Strong,Taiwan News, Staff Writer
    2017/12/09 15:04
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    Chinese embassy to the U.S. Minister Li Kexin. (By Central News Agency)

    TAIPEI (Taiwan News) – The day a United States Navy ship docks in Kaohsiung is the day China will launch a military attack against Taiwan, a Chinese diplomat in the U.S. reportedly said Friday.

    Chinese embassy Minister Li Kexin (李克新) was referring to the recent passage by the U.S. Congress of a measure which will allow visits by Navy vessels and military officials from the U.S. and Taiwan to each other’s territory.

    He was speaking at an embassy event where more than 200 Chinese students in the U.S. but also Taiwanese residents and media had been invited, the Chinese-language Liberty Times reported.

    If the U.S. Navy visited Taiwan, it would violate China’s Anti-Secession Law (反分裂國家法), which had not yet been used before, Li said. The law was passed in 2005 at a time of tension with the Taiwan government of President Chen Shui-bian (高雄) and for the first time formalized Beijing’s threats of military intervention should the island declare independence.

    A decision for mutual visits by Navy ships between the U.S. and Taiwan would violate the basic spirit of the establishment of diplomatic relations between Beijing and Washington, Li continued.

    “The day that a U.S. Navy vessel arrives in Kaohsiung, is the day that our People’s Liberation Army unites Taiwan with military force,” the Liberty Times quoted Li as saying.

    The diplomat emphasized that China’s main policy principle on Taiwan was still peaceful unification, but that it would not rule out the extreme possibility of unification by military force.

    In Taipei, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) said it had no way of saying how the U.S. government would interpret the new law, but the threatening way in which a Chinese official had commented on it had hurt the feelings of people on both sides and was not helpful to the positive development of relations between Taiwan and China.

    MOFA said the government would continue to promote the peaceful and stable development of cross-straits ties and use dialogue to defuse differences.

    Tamkang University international affairs expert Alexander Huang saw Li’s statement as destined for internal Chinese consumption. In addition, since China had no way of overcoming the support for Taiwan in Congress, it used strong language against the work of the Taiwan sympathizers instead, Huang commented.

    The expert also found Li’s mention of Kaohsiung strange, since it seemed to imply that if U.S. Navy vessels docked at other Taiwanese ports, it would not matter that much.
     
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    When they hit the buttons these missiles costing billions will land in Taiwan within minutes, the losses over the Taiwan side is more than trillion dollars instantly. After this, PLA landing will occur within same day. By next dawn war will be over and Taiwan will fly only the PRC flag.
     
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    Useless chinks are all talk and no action.

    They've lost all their wars against much smaller nations and if they're not careful it will happen again.
     
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    John Tan father and son volunteer to join the new 8 nations alliance army to raze and sack Peking again.
     
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    Communist chinks are the greatest traitors of the chink race. Can lend their help to the North Koreans but will be brutal towards same chink race people. Ptui! The rot started from Mao Zedong who colluded with the Japanese to kill the native chinks. And the Mao-descendant members of this forum continues the stench here! WTF!
     
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    Will PLA also liberate Virgin President Tsai ?
     
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    virus Alfrescian Old Timer

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    I more int to know if yr mother wife son n dotter will join the comfort women wing to serve the snakes in army
     
  10. JohnTan

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    My wife and daughter will be at the port to give us a heroes' welcome with flags and applause when we return victorious.

    I will share our deeds of valour over cigars and whiskey after dinner at the country club.
     
  11. war is best form of peace

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    All that is needed is thousands of DF-10 + DF-11 + DF-15 + DF16. All shot within hours. After which there will be no military establishment on Taiwan island to remain active. Now power grid, No communication, No port No airport usable. Then landing by sea and air escorted by fighter and ground attack helicopters. Round up everyone that they want to execute or imprison. The air and sea landing power of PLA are raising in world highest speed which is not seen before in whole history of mankind. Amphibious landing ships, Giant Hovercrafts, Amphibious Tanks, Amphibious Wheeled Combat Vehicles, are all made in quantity and doubling every few months. Many types of drones, aircrafts, helicopters, are produced in scales like Japanese making cars in 1980s.

    Nothing can stop China.
     
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    I just hope after taking over Taiwan, the PLA will maintain the status quo of Tsai and not seek to deflower her. She should then be transferred to the National Museum in Taiwan to be displayed a national monument.
     
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    SAF ex StarLight can not invocate
    反分裂國家法 ? Pse ask LHL to do something helpful for this invocation pse.

    9 Terrexs not enough Ah? Pse send F-15s and ALL RSN ships to sabo Tsai DPP ASAP!

    Why SAF no count only Dotard warship count ah? See SAF no up ah? WAF?
     
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    Under xi jinping, its all about eliminating rivals in china communist party, land grab and threatening asian neighbours.
     
  15. virus

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    Do not underestimate the underlying Stalinist military elements that upped bao xi lai. there exist members of old guards and pro Soviet thinking, they will hv a go even if 11 objected. They will defend NK n will not hesitate to escalate. China's resolve to unify Taiwan cannot b ignore, americans r reckless n pushing the wrong agenda, the region should not condone them
     
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    Yes!!!! Please liberate taiwan kias asap. This is to revenge for calling our little red dot a peesai land!

    Ah tiong wan sui!!!
     
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    其实中国这样说法太过抬举美国了。
    现在中国可以自己公布统一时间表。给台独和美国一样死心。同时警告任何国家如果胆敢干预中国统一的话,就先自己买好棺材准备给台独陪葬!

    不要给美国觉得中国估计美军实力。美国现在连朝鲜都搞得灰头土脸,呼天抢地,狼狈不堪。南韩也不敢再指望美国可以确保自己存在。只是无奈完全没有任何强大靠山,拿美国的破烂盾牌继续死撑而已。

    如果韩国获得中俄两大国答应保护,这远比依赖美国强万倍。无奈自己已经得罪中俄太多了。不敢妄想奢想了。

    中国不应该再给美国留什么面子。应该给世界都注意到美国已经大大的不同于往日了。不再能对亚洲地区举足轻重了。自身难保,罩谁也都罩不住。
     
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    Yup. Big mistake from the start. If only SK had pay protection money to Ah Tiong and Sor Lian Kias earlier, now everyone get go home sleep in peace. Same as jitpoon and peesai land por lampars. Sooner or later kenna jialat jialat.
     
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    Don't dwell so much on the past! China today is a different animal! Let the missiles fly!
     
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    Chinkland losing wars to smaller countries occur repeatedly throughout the centuries. The Han dynasty paid regular tribute to the Huns, the Sui invasion of Korea was repeatedly beaten back, the Sung regularly got owned by the Liao, Hsi Hsia and Jin, the Ming emperor got POWed by some random mongol tribe, the Qing got beat by the Burmese and the Japs, the Commies got beat in Vietnam.

    Why would this time be any different? The chinks will find a way to lose even if the odds are overwhelmingly in their favour.
     

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