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Is Neymar really worth €222m?

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  1. THE_CHANSTER

    THE_CHANSTER Alfrescian (Inf)

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    No player, whether Maradona, Ronaldo, Bale, Messi or Pogba is worth €100m let alone €200m.
    This is sheer madness from PSG to pay this amount to Barcelona. The Football Transfer market has gone utter bonkers!:confused:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40762417
     
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    Gallego99 Alfrescian Old Timer

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    If you're referring to footballing skills and ability, then the straight and simple answer to that is NO. Is he marketable? YES. PSG can easily recoup their investment if they have the image rights to the player. He's young, good looking and will appeal to the masses especially those in the Spanish speaking countries in Latin America. The market potential is huge.
    You can be sure that the big clubs with deep pockets will be paying a lot of attention on PSG and whether they'll succeed in this massive bet. That could be the benchmark and set the direction of future sales of elite footballers. Welcome to the world of NBA.:D
     
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    No one would have gone to this extent and then you see who is behind it and in one of Qatar worst crisis since independence. They are in the midst of a blockade, operating their flights in and out thru narrow emergency corridors, their nationals kicked out of 4 countries with 48 hr notice etc. Mixture of ego, nationalism or money laundering. La Liga provided a clue when they commented about the need to delay by a day not to breach financials as their sums suggest that it is no viable for PSG.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ing-more-than-trophies-to-psg-s-qatari-owners

    Qatar Makes a $263 Million Statement With Proposed Neymar Deal
    By Alaa Shahine and Charles Penty
    3 August 2017, 16:53 GMT+4
    Paris Saint-Germain to sign Brazil soccer star in record deal
    Qatar locked in two-month diplomatic spat with Saudi bloc

    Neymar Photographer: Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images
    Neymar’s imminent record transfer to French soccer team Paris Saint-Germain is a milestone for a club determined to win Europe’s top silverware. It’s also seen as a political statement by its wealthy owner: Qatar.

    The Brazilian forward -- whose full name is Neymar Da Silva Santos Jr -- is set to join PSG from Spain’s FC Barcelona after the Qatari-owned club agreed to meet his $263 million buyout clause, Sky News reported. The total value of the deal, including wages and add-ons, may reach almost $600 million, the broadcaster said. PSG officials weren’t immediately available to comment.

    Gadfly: Neymar Is Less Greedy Than He Looks

    The transfer, if it goes through, would be just the latest in a series of headline-grabbing deals by Qatar since June, when a Saudi-led alliance cut ties with the Gulf nation after accusing it of sponsoring terrorism. The world’s top exporter of liquefied natural gas has since agreed to buy F-15 fighter jets from the U.S., seven warships from Italy and flirted with the idea of buying a stake in American Airlines. Even if preparation for the deals predates the standoff, analysts say Qatar is determined to show it has not been derailed by the crisis.

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    “Qatar has not capitulated, it is fighting back -- and the Neymar signing is part of that,” said Simon Chadwick, professor of sports enterprise at the University of Salford in the U.K. “It’s a charm offensive, a soft power stance -- there’s something of international diplomacy in all of this. The last thing Saudi Arabia wants is people all over the world talking about Qatar,” its investments in sports and Neymar, he said.

    Two-Decade Push

    Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt severed diplomatic and transport links with Qatar on June 5, accusing it of backing extremist groups across the Middle East and cozying up to Saudi Arabia’s regional rival, Iran. Qatar has repeatedly denied the charges.

    At the heart of the dispute is Qatar’s two-decade push to develop a foreign policy sometimes at odds with its neighbors. It backed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Hamas in the Gaza Strip and armed factions opposed by the U.A.E. or Saudi Arabia in Libya and Syria. Its television network Al Jazeera has at various times embarrassed or angered most Middle Eastern governments.

    Qatar is also known for splashing on trophy assets, from stakes in global companies including Glencore Plc and Rosneft Oil Co. to landmark London properties such as the Shard. A desert country with few global sports achievements, it surprisingly won the rights to host the 2022 soccer World Cup.

    “Qatar does not use economic tools to harm trading partners,” Qatari Finance Minister Ali Shareef Al Emadi wrote in an editorial published by Bloomberg last week. “Nor do we leverage business deals for political gain.”

    Workers’ Rights

    Qatar’s strategy hasn’t always been smooth-sailing.

    The World Cup award has fueled allegations of corruption within the world’s soccer governing body, while Qatar has faced criticism over its treatment of workers on construction sites for the tournament. The government has always denied any wrongdoing related to the World Cup bid and has pledged to improve workers’ living and working conditions.

    Read More: QIA Is Said to Seek U.S. Deals in Defiance of Gulf Crisis

    Qatar has beefed up its lobbying efforts since the crisis with the Saudi alliance broke out, including in Washington where it has hired six new firms and revised contracts with two others to focus on its current troubles at a cost of about $1.5 million a month, according to terms specified in contracts which must be disclosed to the Justice Department under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.


    Full Coverage: Qatar Crisis
    “Qatar is no stranger to using soft power in the form of buying influence where it can, and especially in the West,” said Milena Rodban, a Washington-based political risk consultant. Qatar’s own human rights record means that the public relations campaign will unlikely lead to “overwhelming appeals” that would resolve the Gulf crisis in its favor, she said.

    The decision to buy Neymar has infuriated Spain’s top soccer league, LaLiga, which turned the player’s lawyers away on Thursday when they tried to file the money for his release clause, it said in an emailed statement. Chairman Javier Tebas told the AS newspaper that his organization would do all it could to challenge PSG, which he described as a “club/state.”

    The deal could backfire on Qatar, especially if fans of other teams see it as damaging their interests -- whether from driving higher ticket prices or reducing the competitiveness of their leagues, said Marc Ganis, president of marketing company Sportscorp. Even from a business standpoint, it’s an over-reach, he said.

    “The amount to be paid for Neymar is staggering by any standard,” Ganis said by email. “Whatever increase they could generate from Neymar joining the club would be a drop in the bucket relative to how much they would pay for this one player.”

    — With assistance by Thomas Gualtieri, Angeline Benoit, Donna Abu-Nasr, and Bill Allison
     
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    Gallego99 Alfrescian Old Timer

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    FIFPro want transfer investigation after Neymar move

    Date published: Friday 4th August 2017 11:52

    Neymar’s world-record 222 million euro move to Paris St Germain has encouraged international players’ association FIFPro to demand an investigation into “anti-competitive, unjustified and illegal” FIFA transfer rules.

    The 25-year-old Brazil forward on Thursday signed a five-year deal with PSG after his legal representatives paid Barcelona 222m euros (£200.6million) to secure an early release from his contract at the Nou Camp.

    Barca have passed the details of the transaction to UEFA with a view to determining whether there are any “disciplinary responsibilities” concerning Financial Fair Play and adherence to market rules attached to the case.

    On Friday morning FIFPro general secretary Theo van Seggelen bemoaned what he sees as a drift towards dominance of world football by “a select group of rich, mostly European-based clubs”..........

    http://www.football365.com/news/fifpro-want-transfer-investigation-after-neymar-move

    3) Are clubs no longer allowed to have losses?

    To be exact, clubs can spend up to €5million more than they earn per assessment period (three years). However it can exceed this level to a certain limit, if it is entirely covered by a direct contribution/payment from the club owner(s) or a related party. This prevents the build-up of unsustainable debt.

    The limits are:
    • €45m for assessment periods 2013/14 and 2014/15
    • €30m for assessment periods 2015/16, 2016/17 and 2017/18

    In order to promote investment in stadiums, training facilities, youth development and women’s football (from 2015), all such costs are excluded from the break-even calculation

    5) Are owners allowed to inject money into their club as they like or through sponsorship?

    If a club's owner injects money into the club through a sponsorship deal with a company to which he is related, then UEFA's competent bodies will investigate and, if necessary, adapt the calculations of the break-even result for the sponsorship revenues to the level which is appropriate ('fair value') according to market prices.

    Under the updated regulations, any entity that, alone or in aggregate together with other entities which are linked to the same owner or government, represent more than 30% of the club's total revenues is automatically considered a related party.

    http://www.uefa.com/community/news/newsid=2064391.html
     
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    Gallego99 Alfrescian Old Timer

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    I believe the image rights of Neymar is in the hands of the owner (I stand corrected on this). James Rodriguez sold enough shirts in one season to offset the 40 million pound price tag on the player. Ever wondered why Florentino refuses to sell Rodriguez to other clubs. The simple rule is you don't sell your cash cow.

    Beckham,Ronaldo and to a certain extent Messi, earns a fraction of their taxable income from football, the rest through endorsements. Image rights is the jewel of any transfer deal. Neymar is 25 probably at the peak of his career. With good performances for club and country in the next 12 months, his stock is set to rise.

    With Qatar hosting the 2022 WC, PSG acquisition of the player is a statement of intent. My money is on Neymar itching for a move to REAL in 3 years as it will be curtains down for the 32 year old Ronaldo.
     
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    scroobal Alfrescian Old Timer

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    So it is not about Neymar after all if one can read between the lines. In a way, it similar to Malaysia 1MDB unable to transfer the funds to Abu Dhabi based on the London arbitration agreement as the funds origin are too hot.
     
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    He is a very good football player
     

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