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    Top source countries for migrant workers are not Asian

    A rise in work visas has been the driving force behind record immigration numbers but the main source countries are not from Asia.

    The top five source countries for work last year are the United Kingdom, Germany, Australia, South Africa and the United States of America.

    The United Kingdom, which made up 16.6 per cent of work visas issued, has twice as many as those of Germany on 8.8 per cent.

    Australians do not require visas to work in New Zealand - the Statistics New Zealand
    figures however shows people coming from Australia as their last country of residence.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11842859

    Despite China and India being among the biggest source countries for permanent residents, they are not among the top five for direct migrant workers.

    Massey University sociologist Paul Spoonley said migrant from Asian countries were less likely to get direct access to New Zealand on skilled work visa.


    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11845658

    It is easier for a politician to attack us based on our ethnicities than saying that immigration is a complex and nuanced issue which requires more evidence-based research and better use of data.

    We used the same data that politicians have been quoting for months now, the same data that has allowed them to make "record migration" an issue for election year.

    It is just that if you look deeply enough into the data, it shows that all policy proposals are more of a Band-Aid than genuine attempts at addressing the wider challenges posed by rising immigration numbers.

    Also, perhaps it is data which creates too much complexity for Peters to be able to blame the Asians. :eek:
     
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    It bears repeating, NZ is NOT clean and green as often touted, and neither is it honest.

    CORRUPTION, DISTRICT COUNCILS, NEWS
    THE WESTLAND DC MANAGER WHO AWARDED A CAKE DECORATOR’S FIRM A $7 MILLION CONTRACT TO BUILD A SEWAGE PLANT

    https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordp...-contract-to-build-a-sewage-plant/#like-31211

    Not new news, nevertheless some people will not have heard about it. The Council corruption’s stacking up so fast it takes a bit of keeping up with.

    The said company had “no track record in waste management ” … was not a registered company at the time it won the tender” … and “it registered with the Companies Office several months after securing the Franz Josef job”. Great stuff. So Westland DC wants a cake expert in charge of sewage? Or rather, is it a case of contracts for the mates?

    Do you still trust your Local Government?
    :eek:Io:And in fact the subsequent news items tell you it was a $10 million contract and in fact there were TWO. Now under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office we await the outcome. I’m not holding my breath in that we’re already considered corrupt under the latter’s watch so what are our chances for transparency this time?:eek:
     
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    Donald Trump's ALTERNATIVE FACT has arrived in New Zealand

    CONFIRMED - High Court judge of New Zealand ruled CPF of Singaporeans belong to the NZ government while John Key's CPF is his own savings. Discrimination has become legal in NZ.:confused:

    To all decent folks out there - if you want this case to go to the Court of Appeal and the UN Human Rights Committee in New York and Geneva, please donate to the PayPal account of my friend [email protected] for expenditure on legal advice, disbursements and miscellaneous expenses to bring this case forward, as nowadays, one must have money to gain a semblance of justice. Any amount will be much appreciated.

    Your kind donation will entitle you to the first installment of the e-Book "Donald Trump's ALTERNATIVE FACT has arrived in New Zealand" available soon.
     
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    Re: Donald Trump's ALTERNATIVE FACT has arrived in New Zealand

    Stand up for your rights

    Do not allow anyone to discriminate against you.:(

    https://cpfisnotapensionfund.wordpress.com/
     
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    Most of these Singaporeans living overseas still want to keep their HDB so they can never give up their citizenship.

    They want best of both worlds...so let them suffer.
     
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    Giving up citizenship is a personal choice and should not be forced by another country New Zealand

    Bobby is a sour, unhappy and presumptuous fool. Don't presume Singaporeans living overseas still have their HDB flats. One country should never have the right to force you to give up your citizenship, especially NZ which is always trumpeting human rights values, fairness and justice and equality for all. In this case, New Zealand has allowed one self-serving civil servant to destroy all these basic human values - the Chief Executive of the Ministry of Social Development, Brendan Boyle. The High Court judge Brewer has proven the non-independence of the NZ judiciary by stating that the CPF of Singaporeans are "in a sense" a pension but John Key's CPF savings are his own.
     
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    Giving up citizenship is a personal choice and should not be forced upon Singapore citizens by another country like New Zealand:(

    ORDER PROHIBITING PUBLICATION OF NAME, ADDRESS,
    OCCUPATION OR IDENTIFYING PARTICULARS OF APPELLANT

    https://cpfisnotapensionfund.wordpress.com/

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    No one helped during violent and sexual assault on train:mad:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11905738

    NZ Immigration slogan: "New Zealand, the right choice" - Yeah, right.:*:
     
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    Petition - Change the Government

    https://www.change.org/p/everyone-eligible-to-vote-change-the-government-vote-them-out

    Pension theft accounts for almost half of the National Party’s Posted Surplus 2017
    The National Governments recently released a 3 year surplus of $3.7B.
    It should be pointed out this surplus includes $1.5B (500 Million/annum) of stolen Kiwi and immigrants overseas pension funds under the guise of Section 70 (S70). S70 is responsible for removing any overseas pensions to subsidise the NZ superannuation.
    European Convention 1408/71 Article 46 specifically prohibits nations from consuming age-pensions earned in any other countries. These principles of international social security are honoured around the world - except by New Zealand.
    The Ministry of Social Development (MSD) who are responsible for the removal of such pensions (of both returning kiwis and Immigrants) do so fraudulently by forcing all these individuals to set up bank accounts in their own name, having their pensions deposited in these accounts and then denying any access by the account holders to any of the funds.
    MSD are constantly attempting to change the description of overseas pensions to justify their actions. For example MSD claim the UK pension is a government run pension scheme when in actual fact there is no participation by the UK government or contribution by them.
    MSD recently attempted to call the UK pension scheme a TAX, NZSP have a letter dated 25th October 2016 from the UK Minister of Treasury responsible for this policy area, stating categorically the UK pension is NOT A TAX and is administered by the National Insurance Fund (NIF).
    Contributions to the Nation Insurance fund are generated from employee wages with a similar contribution from the employer. With no Government inclusion, the UK pension fund is NOT covered by New Zealand’s Section 70. Even so MSD continue to defraud immigrants and returning Kiwis of their pension funds from the UK, as well as many other countries.
    Information released under the Freedom of Information Act outlines the UK pension scheme the NIF bears little or no resemblance to the NZ Super Fund, and therefore MSD has no rights to these funds.
    For the National Government to claim such a surplus as accrued by their actions, when nearly 50% is acquired from stolen funds is a disgrace by the current NZ government. It is incomprehensible and immoral and has no justification for MSD to continue to stealing pensions from returning kiwis and immigrants to use to justify a Government surplus.
    It’s time all New Zealanders and immigrants banded together to right this wrong which is forcing many pensioners to live below the bread line when at their time of life they should be stress free and enjoying their retirement.
    Join the New Zealand Seniors Party(NZSP) and stop this theft. Together (89000 immigrants and 75000 kiwis) can make a significant difference in the forthcoming elections.
    Make your vote count and hold the next government accountable to all kiwis.
    http://www.nzseniorsparty.org.nz/

    Discrimination in New Zealand - https://cpfisnotapensionfund.wordpress.com/

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    National Party leader Bill English says Paula Bennett's remarks about criminals' human rights were incorrect.

    "It clearly is not the case that some New Zealanders have less human rights than others," English told Radio NZ this morning.
    :eek:

    It is not the case that some New Zealanders have less human rights than others BUT Singaporeans living in New Zealand have less human rights because their life-time CPF savings are confiscated by the New Zealand government but Sir John Key's CPF savings are his own tax-free money

    In New Zealand, gang members have more human rights than Singaporeans because the NZ Human Rights Commission and the NZ Human Rights Tribunal do not bother about the Chief Executive's DISCRIMINATION of Singaporeans - complaints filed four years ago. These so-called Human Rights Organisations are subservient to the NZ government.

    The Deputy Prime Minister apologised for saying gang members have less human rights than others - but, the blatant discrimination of Singaporeans in New Zealand perpetuates and does not "stretch human rights laws" at all. This is the hypocrisy and the UN Human Rights Committee will soon have clear evidence of their conspiracy to obstruct, prevent, pervert and defeat justice.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11916627

    https://discriminationnz.co.nz/

    :eek:
     
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    : VOTE THEM OUT

    Under the National government:-
    • New Zealanders lost their privacy rights with increased powers to the GCSB,
    • State houses were sold off to rich building developers,
    • More than 41,000 people became homeless,
    • Child poverty increased rapidly,
    • Police numbers were reduced,
    • Violent crime increased, as many as three assaults per day against dairy owners and workers,
    • Unreasonably inflated prices of houses became the norm,
    • Medical and mental health services were neglected,
    • Discrimination against ONE Nationality became legal - https://our.actionstation.org.nz/petitions/stop-discriminating-by-nationality
    KIWISAVER, started in 2007 as a mirror of the Singapore CPF (which began in 1955), has so far, not been a deductible – BUT, the Singapore CPF became deductible under John Key’s National Party. Sooner or later, they will change the rules for Kiwisaver to be deducted from NZ Super, as they did to the CPF three years ago.
    DO YOU WANT YOUR KIWISAVER TO BE DEDUCTED from your SUPER if you vote National in again?

    VOTE THEM OUT - https://www.change.org/p/everyone-e...ernment-vote-them-out?source_location=minibar


    https://e2nz.org/2017/09/07/psa-your-content-please/comment-page-1/#comment-239721

    Don’t EVER move to Noo Zeeland – Twenty years ago, a group of Singaporeans were taken in by the NZ Immigration slogan “New Zealand, the RIGHT CHOICE” They moved and set up businesses, employed many Kiwis, paid high tax rates and expected to receive the normal Super on reaching retirement age. Instead, the New Zealand government confiscated the CPF savings of Singaporeans, despite knowing full well that their millionaire ex-Premier SIR John Key had collected his Singapore tax-free savings. This is the discrimination practised by this so-called fair and steeped in human rights NZ government. Read all about this in – https://discriminationnz.co.nz/
    https://dontmovetonewzealand.jimdo.com/
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1611/S00025/private-pension-blunder.htm


    National Party leader Bill English says Paula Bennett's remarks about criminals' human rights were incorrect.

    "It clearly is not the case that some New Zealanders have less human rights than others," English told Radio NZ this morning.

    It is not the case that some New Zealanders have less human rights than others BUT Singaporeans living in New Zealand have less human rights because their life-time CPF savings are confiscated by the New Zealand government but Sir John Key's CPF savings are his own tax-free money

    In New Zealand, gang members have more human rights than Singaporeans because the NZ Human Rights Commission and the New Zealand Human Rights Tribunal do not bother about the Chief Executive's DISCRIMINATION of Singaporeans - complaints filed four years ago. These so-called New Zealand Human Rights Organisations are subservient to the NZ government as they are dependent on the government for funding.

    The Deputy Prime Minister apologised for saying gang members have less human rights than others - but, the blatant discrimination of Singaporeans in New Zealand perpetuates and does not "stretch human rights laws" at all. This is the hypocrisy and the UN Human Rights Committee will soon have clear evidence of their conspiracy to obstruct, prevent, pervert and defeat justice.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11916627

    https://discriminationnz.co.nz/

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    Discrimination made legal

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=546965892348080&id=100011040228821

    John Key's CPF money is his own but the CPF savings of Singaporeans in NZ belong to the Ministry of Social Development. Thousands of Kiwis have also worked in Singapore and collected their CPF money tax-free, but Singaporeans get taxed 100%.
    The kiwisaver is a mirror of the CPF, so in the near future, your Kiwisaver will be seen as a pension in the warped and slanted eyes of this Chief Executive.
    NZ law does not care that the CPF savings of Singaporeans are not state-funded at all as morals and principles do not count in this Land of the Long, White Smokescreen.:(:rolleyes:
     
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    NZ 'like a beautiful person with cancer'

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/nati...talist/ar-BBFZgHz?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout

    100% Pure CPF savings 100% Lies
    John Key's CPF belong to himself ; Singaporeans' CPF belong to NZ
    Kiwis' CPF belong to Kiwis themselves ; Singaporeans' CPF is a pension
    Malaysians' CPF are their own savings ; Singaporeans' CPF are allowances
    Filipinos' CPF are their own savings;S'poreans' CPF are deducted 100% from NZ Super
     
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    Warning to all Singaporeans

    Do not move to New Zealand because the New Zealand government discriminates against Singaporeans. The NZ government will pay full pensions to all nationalities except Singaporeans as the monthly refund to Singaporeans by the CPF Board will be swallowed up by the NZ government’s Ministry of Social Development. This discrimination has been made legal by the NZ Court of Appeal as it denied the right of Singaporeans to proceed to the Court of Appeal after unfair decisions of the Social Security Appeal Authority and the High Court which substituted the word CPF “refund” to become “payment”, “periodical allowance” and pension”.

    The Chairwoman of the Social Security Appeal Authority, who had a conviction of unfairness against her tenant (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-pos...erty/8864917/Lawyer-ordered-to-refund-tenants) , ruled that, “[32] The appellant says the payment (refund) he receives is not a benefit or a pension. Section 70 refers to benefits, pensions and periodical allowances. The payment at issue in this appeal is a payment (refund) he is entitled to receive monthly. It is a periodical payment.

    [33] The amount received by the appellant is paid (refunded) periodically and is payable on the appellant attaining a particular age. It is intended by the Singapore Government primarily to replace income on retirement or old age. We are in no doubt the payment (refund) the appellant receives constitutes a periodical allowance.”

    [34] In addition, the New Zealand Oxford Dictionary defines “pension” as: 1. A regular payment made by a government to people above a specified age, to widows or to the disabled. The payments (refunds) made to the appellant also readily fall within a commonly understood meaning of “pension”.

    Note: The appellant’s words “refunds”, which is the actual truth, had been substituted by the Social Security Appeal Authority with “payments”. This play on choice definitions of words is an affront to fairness, morality, principles and natural justice.

    The High Court Judge Brewer (http://www.kiwisfirst.com/judge-file-index/high-court-justice-timothy-brewer/) in his judgement NZHC 711 of 11 April 2017 (http://www.nzlii.org/nz/cases/NZHC/2017/) ruled, “[18] In my view, the Authority is correct. The appellant’s monthly payments (refunds) were made at an amount and frequency determined by Singaporean law regulating the CPF. It was certainly a periodical allowance. Whether the payments amount to a pension is more problematic. The payments were made by (or on behalf of) the Government of Singapore, but not from funds contributed by the public generally. Nevertheless, I characterise the payments (refunds) as a pension. They came from money collected by the Government compulsorily from the appellant and his employers.

    Background of Justice Timothy Brewer - http://www.kiwisfirst.com/judge-file-index/high-court-justice-timothy-brewer/

    From 1997-2001 he was a part-time Commissioner of the Law Commission.As a Crown lawyer, Justice Brewer was behind the unlawful cover-up of NZ Army culpability in the 1994 Te Rata (Berryman) bridge collapse which resulted in the wrongful death of beekeeper Kenneth Richards. Brewer had the engineer’s investigative report (the Butcher Report) into the collapse materially altered to expunge reference to the poor construction by the NZ Army just eight years earlier.Justice Brewer joined the Territorial Force of the New Zealand Army in 1976; appointed a member of the Courts Martial Panel of Advocates in 2001; Judge-Advocate from 2004-2009 and a Judge of the Court Martial of New Zealand from 2009. He retired in 2009 as Director-General Reserve Forces with the rank of Brigadier.Justice Brewer was appointed an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit in 2003.

    The Court of Appeal (CA 235/2017 – NZCA 369) denied the right of Singaporeans to appeal against two unfair decisions of two not 100% PURE NZ people, stating – Decision: “[12] The appellant did not confine his submissions on the leave application to the proposed questions of law. For example, he advanced submissions under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990, the Privacy Act 1993 and Magna Carta. We will address only those submissions that are relevant to the specific questions of law for which leave to bring a second appeal is sought. [13] We accept the appellant’s submissions that the proposed appeal raises an issue of some potential general or public importance to the extent that other Singaporean citizens who are entitled to receive New Zealand Superannuation may also be affected by their entitlements under the Fund. However, for the reasons that follow, we are satisfied that the application for leave to bring a second appeal must be declined because it has no realistic prospect of success..... There is no appearance of error or of a miscarriage of justice.”

    Conclusion: The end result is the same – Discrimination against Singaporeans by the New Zealand government, no matter how the judiciary defines CPF refunds, which their ex-Premier John Key and thousands of Kiwis who had worked in Singapore had collected their CPF savings tax-free.

    The hijacked CPF savings of Singaporeans, refunded monthly, are “taxed 100%” by the New Zealand government and deemed a pension, payment, periodical allowance and a benefit, while all other nationalities retain their own savings tax-free.

    The fact that Singapore discriminates against its own citizens is compounded by New Zealand which perpetuates this crime, despite their 1993 New Zealand Human Rights Act which clearly stated, discrimination by nationality, whether directly or indirectly is unlawful.

    So Singaporeans should beware and not invest in a country that discriminates against them – just like this website warning immigrants - https://dontmovetonewzealand.jimdo.com/

    Yet the Singapore government sends its soldiers to New Zealand for training, has its fighter jets at an airbase here, and the GIC invested billions of CPF money in New Zealand’s “property bubble” market. It is about time that the Singapore government realises that New Zealand is indirectly forcing Singaporeans to discard their red passports and rapidly deplete the coffers of the Singapore CPF Board. If the New Zealand judiciary can define one nationality’s CPF savings as a pension, allowance, periodical payment and a benefit, other countries like the USA and Australia, may follow suit and soon, they may be a run on the people’s savings in the CPF Board, all started by New Zealand, which despite receiving large annual payments from the SAF/MINDEF, has no principles, conscience or gratitude and instead, discriminates against Singaporeans. This is the REAL New Zealand, not the slogan 100% PURE NZ it trumpets all over the world.

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    NZ deducts CPF savings ONLY from Singaporeans

    Read all about it
    - DISCRIMINATION made LEGAL

    https://www.amazon.com/Francis-Done/e/B079GWW2Z3/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1517737840&sr=1-1


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